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what would be the better anti estrogen to take with a cycle of d-bol and sust
clomid or novladex
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thetruth12
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Novaldex during the cycle.... clomid after.... or at least I prefer clomid afterwards...... Run a search and you'll find much more in-depth responses!!
Nolvadex is definitely more potent at binding mammary estrogen receptors.I would choose it over clomid any day as an anti-E.
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I'd probably just stick with Nolvadex... it has about zero side effects... and with Clomid, you get the emotional sides or acne...
I mean... it has been claimed that Clomid "stimulates" production of LH and therefore of testosterone, HOWEVER Clomid's activity is achieved not by stimulation of the hypothalamus and pituitary, but by blocking their inhibition by estrogen... following this train... Nolvadex would also accomplish this goal by competitively binding to target estrogen sites, thereby allowing the hypothalamus and pituitary to re-activate.
There is alot of discussion of clomid being a sucessful antagonist in the hypothalamus and in breast tissue, where as it is effective agonist in bone tissue and also improves blood cholesterol. I don't think for bodybuilders, that any of the other effects (i.ie., reducing the damage of muscle tissue that results from muscular training)... as it is more greatly help endurance athletes...
I mean... if you are dead set on taking Clomid... I guess it can't hurt. I think that Nolva is a much better selection... as it will bind to the estrogen receptors, and not give you any of the ill-effects that clomid will... at the same time, your hypo and pitu will kick back on.
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I mean... it has been claimed that Clomid "stimulates" production of LH and therefore of testosterone, HOWEVER Clomid's activity is achieved not by stimulation of the hypothalamus and pituitary, but by blocking their inhibition by estrogen... following this train... Nolvadex would also accomplish this goal by competitively binding to target estrogen sites, thereby allowing the hypothalamus and pituitary to re-activate.
There is alot of discussion of clomid being a sucessful antagonist in the hypothalamus and in breast tissue, where as it is effective agonist in bone tissue and also improves blood cholesterol. I don't think for bodybuilders, that any of the other effects (i.ie., reducing the damage of muscle tissue that results from muscular training)... as it is more greatly help endurance athletes...
I mean... if you are dead set on taking Clomid... I guess it can't hurt. I think that Nolva is a much better selection... as it will bind to the estrogen receptors, and not give you any of the ill-effects that clomid will... at the same time, your hypo and pitu will kick back on.
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
LOL -- well.. shit. All that time I spent posting what I did, and here you come and say it in a simple few words... I feel like a blowhard!
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LOL@C-Ditty.
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
I was trying the in depth response... sorry... new mod... trying to show off... LOLC-ditty
02gixxersix
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So how would you run nolvadex as post cycle therapy???
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02gixxersix said:
I hit 20-40 mg... 40 toward the beginning of my Nolva run, and 20 toward the end.
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bumpo
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bumpo said:
Hmm... couldn't HURT... lol might be a little more costly than just one... though.
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