Most people that lose weight on clen are also dieting and adding lots of cardio and or starving themselves. Clen kills heart cells and can you get results, yes, but you acan get the same if not better results from a solid ECA stack and not have the cheat pain, heart cell death, cramps and other issues related to clen. As I said its one of those "old school" drugs that some people just know the name and hang onto even though clen should really stop being used. Now mixing liquid clen into a topical fat burner can actually work better than oral clen. I honestly would just switch out to something else because you arent going to magically shred 30lbs on clen. Just saying...