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40butpumpin

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This diet is very difficult to say the least. My energy and strength levels have pretty much plumeted. I actually strained my damn back in the gym yesterday because of it trying to lift with I normally do. Someone please throw me a bone and tell me it's gonna get better after carb-up day or that I'll eventually adapt. If I don't hear any responses I guess I'll dump it.
 
first of all, are you sure you are in ketosis??? make sure that you have reached ketosis, this can be done with keto-stix or glucose meter that also measures ketones. you will adopt to a sertain level, but dont expect to be able to lift like you did when you were full of glycogen, that just wont happen, you can also try TKD, which is modified keto-diet, where you ingest small about of fast digesting carbs right before your workout to help you get through without disrupting ketosis for too long
 
serge said:
first of all, are you sure you are in ketosis??? make sure that you have reached ketosis, this can be done with keto-stix or glucose meter that also measures ketones. you will adopt to a sertain level, but dont expect to be able to lift like you did when you were full of glycogen, that just wont happen, you can also try TKD, which is modified keto-diet, where you ingest small about of fast digesting carbs right before your workout to help you get through without disrupting ketosis for too long

I haven't been checking with a ketp-stick, however, I can't imagine I'm not since I'm so strict with it, no more than 20g/day carbs.

TKD, thanks, I'll look into that. I hadn't heard of that before, maybe that's a possibility.

Anyway thanks for responding.
 
Haven't done a TKD...but I don't think you're suppose to carb up with those. Just a few carbs prior to workout ...right?

When I did a regular CKD I only worked out the two days following my carb up. I felt great.

Maybe TKD is tough to get into ketosis, because you are constantly going in and out.

CKD might be better because once you are in ketosis you stay there for five days and feel fine.

It not like you gonna put any muscle on with this diet so I think you might be better off doing a CKD. Do it 4 weeks straight and get shredded. Then get off.

But I never did a TKD...

Anyone have experiene with both for more info, on which is better?
 
40butpumpin said:


I haven't been checking with a ketp-stick, however, I can't imagine I'm not since I'm so strict with it, no more than 20g/day carbs.

TKD, thanks, I'll look into that. I hadn't heard of that before, maybe that's a possibility.

Anyway thanks for responding.

carbs are not the only issue when getting into ketosis, if your fat intake is not suffiently high then your body will use protein and convert it into glucose preventing you from going into ketosis, our fat intake should be at least 70% of total cals

"Haven't done a TKD...but I don't think you're suppose to carb up with those. Just a few carbs prior to workout ...right?

When I did a regular CKD I only worked out the two days following my carb up. I felt great.

Maybe TKD is tough to get into ketosis, because you are constantly going in and out.

CKD might be better because once you are in ketosis you stay there for five days and feel fine.

It not like you gonna put any muscle on with this diet so I think you might be better off doing a CKD. Do it 4 weeks straight and get shredded. Then get off.

But I never did a TKD...

Anyone have experiene with both for more info, on which is better?"

on TKD, you dont workout the first 2 days after a carb-up (carb-up only for 24hours), instead you keep your fats very high 80-85% of total cals for the first 2 days, then after that you take about 20-30g of maltodextrin or dextrose 30min prior to workout
and thats it for the carbs, during the TKD phase (4days) of the diet your fat intake is about 70% of the total cals, you have to do cardio

the cycle looks like this:

2 days of keto-diet
80-85% fats
15-20% protein

4 days of TKD
70% fats
40g of carbs 30min before workout
rest is protein

1 day carb up

REPEAT
 
strong island said:
When I did a regular CKD I only worked out the two days following my carb up. I felt great.

Yeah this is what I thought of after spending some time thinking about it. And then stick to cardio the rest of the week I was also thinking. It'll be different but it may work. But I am losing weight, there's no question about that. I want to get shredded so I'm gonna stick with this, I think that's the only way I'd ever possibly get that way. I just need to remember to be careful with the weights, man I really strained my lower back yesterday. But tomorrow's carb-up day so look out spaghetti and meatballs cause here I come!!!!!! :) Shit I better stop talking about it I'm making myself hungry right now. Later bros and thanks for the help!
 
hey georgie

georgie24 said:
up the flax oil it WILL give you energy and a good mood. have you tried nyc,eca stacks

I am thinking of doing some Yohimburn with NYC stack how do you go along doing this?

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