heatherrae said:I don't have any problem with atheists. As a matter of fact, I complain WAY MORE about bible thumpers. I think JG has gotten the idea that I am a very religious person. Actually, I hold very weird views that don't really fit any organized religion. However, it is the disrespect of others that I find so annoying. Why do some atheists feel the need to insult and deride other faiths? Let people be. What business is it of yours if they want to believe in a God? I think for some, they sort of want to talk themselves into their own belief by arguing it over and over. If you are secure in what you believe, hold it in your heart and go with it. Maybe some secretly fear that they are wrong.
Being militant one way or the other is annoying and not very effective means of argument.
I didn't watch the clips. I don't feel like watching a militant atheist say outrageous things just to get press this morning. Maybe I will just go run my nails down a chalkboard instead.
) and it actually REaffirmed my faith though I am finding growing respect for Mr Hitchenns views. I actually agree with most of what he says, just not the part about their being no God.
Why should I care about what other people believe? Because their beliefs have an impact on my life. If people didn't believe in Allah there wouldn't be a "war on terror." Should we not care about other irrational beliefs, like someone being inherently inferior based on the melanin content of their skin or their cultural heritage? It seems that religion is the only thing that is above reproach and I don't see it that way.heatherrae said:I don't have any problem with atheists. As a matter of fact, I complain WAY MORE about bible thumpers. I think JG has gotten the idea that I am a very religious person. Actually, I hold very weird views that don't really fit any organized religion. However, it is the disrespect of others that I find so annoying. Why do some atheists feel the need to insult and deride other faiths? Let people be. What business is it of yours if they want to believe in a God? I think for some, they sort of want to talk themselves into their own belief by arguing it over and over. If you are secure in what you believe, hold it in your heart and go with it. Maybe some secretly fear that they are wrong.
Being militant one way or the other is annoying and not very effective means of argument.
I didn't watch the clips. I don't feel like watching a militant atheist say outrageous things just to get press this morning. Maybe I will just go run my nails down a chalkboard instead.
javaguru said:
So, when does having a differing view constitute "shoving it down someone's throat?" Does someone "shove Republicanism down your throat" by posting a pro Bush thread? Why do religious people become so defensive when someone makes a valid point? Are you constantly trying to convince yourselves?heatherrae said:
Really? What impact does anyone on ef's beliefs have on your life? None. Yet you constantly shove your beliefs down our throats. Let it go.
If I or anyone else came on here everyday and lambasted atheists and said how stupid, moronic, etc they are the way you do to anyone besides atheists, you would go ballistic. You don't see it, but you are more dogmatic than the people you ironically label as such.javaguru said:So, when does having a differing view constitute "shoving it down someone's throat?" Does someone "shove Republicanism down your throat" by posting a pro Bush thread? Why do religious people become so defensive when someone makes a valid point? Are you constantly trying to convince yourselves?
BTW, militant atheist is an oxymoron, nobody has ever blown themselves up or flown a plane into building due to their disbelief in a God.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
Steven Weinberg(Nobel Prize in Physics), quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
So you're invoking the Clinton doctrine? Ignore religion and it will go away? Feel free to challenge Atheism everyday HR.....heatherrae said:
javaguru said:
See definition number 2. It isnt a religious tenent.javaguru said:
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