Chinese Testing update!

[lawnsaver]

Guys, these tests were done in good faith. I have nothing to gain from doing this!

I didnt write down the names of people who said they would send donations.
I recieved from LTennet, Stew, and Karl G. $30... NOt enough!

I'm set up on Paypal.com. Its easy and fast I need help if you want the winny tabs tested.

For the guys who said they would send donations and didnt, please do. The anavar tests
were done on good faith and the supplies were bought a head of time for both. I wouldnt have commited myself
to these tests if I was paying for it all myself.

Slopain and Conan, there will not be any hard copy. He did these test in his spare time.
He is well trianed in this field and knows what he is doing. If you choose not to use his products
that fine, I dont care. I dont need to be called out. I did this in good faith as a service for
the board.

 

[Big Johnson]

Guys, these tests were done in good faith. I have nothing to gain from doing this!

I didnt write down the names of people who said they would send donations.
I recieved from LTennet, Stew, and Karl G. $30...

That's funny, bro. Track the Christmas card I sent you.

 

[hewlett]

what about winny is it tested yet?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Thanks man. BTW you got mail.

B-10

 

[needleboy]

what addy you want the funds sent to??

 

[Jeff_rys]

Lawnsaver, could you give me an address to sent it too.

Just to cut the costs.
Any address or postbox will do.

Thanks

 

[Slopain]

http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=38094

Just in case that thread happens to dissapear.

This is exactly what I expected. Nothing. Lawnsaver: don't get defensive I know you didn't do the testing, and no one (at least not me) is accusing you of anything. This is a bunk test without any hard copies. If I gave money Id feel cheated. Anyone can ask for money then give text results anyone that took a chem class and has read the boards for a few weeks can do.

This "test" means nothing.

 

[The Ranger]

And the results are...???

Ranger

 

[lawnsaver]

Slopain, You are a Moderator here and many listen to you. Why would you say it is
a bunk test? Do you know the tester? Is possible there are some honest intellegant
people out there, not looking to screw people. I am one of those trusting types. The tester is
a well respected board member and one I trust. If you dont want to beleive the tests, dont,
but dont give an opinion that has such weight on this board without being 100% sure
that you are correct.

The test might have been faked, but it might have been 100% legit. This is the only thing we can go
on except real world results. They work and I'll back that up!

Even if we wanted to we couldnt get them tested, its illlegal. So our friend went out of
his way and risked get in trouble for a miniscule $250.

Guys this is all we have. I think it was done in good faith. I do know the 10mg and the 40mg a=navar
work and work well.

Big Johnson's donation arrived today! Thanks

All people who would like to help, please email me at [email protected] for info!
Thanks to those who have helped.

 

[M Laredo]

Who cares about IP's shit and all this testing BS. Why don't people just use ttokkyo products. At least this way they know they are getting quality products!

 

[harddtime]

Who cares about IP's shit and all this testing BS. Why don't people just use ttokkyo products. At least this way they know they are getting quality products!

because the chinese stuff is a lot cheaper, especially when you but it in bulk, and it works pretty good for a lot of people.

 

[DTOX]

If the test showed that the 10mg oxandrolones contained just about 10mg, then why the hell is everyone having a shit fit?

After seeing the results I *want* to buy IP ox now.

 

[M Laredo]

because the chinese stuff is a lot cheaper, especially when you but it in bulk, and it works pretty good for a lot of people.

Yeah and so is Ttokkyo gear if you get it from the right place. Ttokkyo 5mg anavar $90/100 tabs works just great for me. So tell me this, where are IP products made? In a quality controlled lab or a dirty basement?

 

[GymRatSD]

If the test showed that the 10mg oxandrolones contained just about 10mg, then why the hell is everyone having a shit fit?

After seeing the results I *want* to buy IP ox now.

The fact is, you haven't seen any test results. You're basing this solely on word-of-mouth.

I could go on here and post crap like that, and just by propaganda have people believe it. Unless I see actual lab reports, testing procedures, and results, I will question the tests.

Also, many people have vested interests on the board -- sources, suppliers, etc. It's a form of advertising. "Yeah, these products are the best!" or "Don't use that crap!" It's simple propaganda.

Last year when the Ttokkyo products were tested, I talked with both the individual that submitted the products to find out why he did that in the first place and the person that actually did the testing. Without hesitation, I received the lab scans via fax. This is how I can tell, as a chemist, that the results were legitimate. Until then, they are extremely questionable.

 

[danadrol]

I would greatly appreiciate a post of the anavar test results!!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

GYMRATSD and SLOPAIN
speak words of wisdom

peace

 

[Stew Meat]

Slopain meant the tests were bunk because they are not legitamite. When you get test results, you always get a hardcopy and a password for verification purposes. The only way someone could possibly do the test without this would be to go behind the lab's back. That being the case, you should NOT have paid to have the test done. You got ripped off.
I know the person who did the test and I can say he is pprobably bullshitting you. He doesn't run a labratory or testing facility, but works in aviation.

Aside from that fact, anytime you tell someone you are going to have something tested and you'll show the results, you MUST have verification or the test is "bunk", no good, fabricated. The results may or may not be represenative of actual IP Oxandralone. You should have never paid for a "maybe."

And yes, you can have gear legally tested... even in the US. You first must gain DEA clearance.


-Stew

 

[GymRatSD]

I would greatly appreiciate a post of the anavar test results!!

Do you read? First, anavar = oxandrolone. Second, the test are not verifiable. "Lab results" without supporting documentation cannot and will not be trusted.

 

[The Shadow]

Lawnsaver - check your PM.

 

[e2]

LOL!!!! And the idiocy continues....

 

[The Shadow]

The fact is, you haven't seen any test results. You're basing this solely on word-of-mouth.

I could go on here and post crap like that, and just by propaganda have people believe it. Unless I see actual lab reports, testing procedures, and results, I will question the tests.

Also, many people have vested interests on the board -- sources, suppliers, etc. It's a form of advertising. "Yeah, these products are the best!" or "Don't use that crap!" It's simple propaganda.

Last year when the Ttokkyo products were tested, I talked with both the individual that submitted the products to find out why he did that in the first place and the person that actually did the testing. Without hesitation, I received the lab scans via fax. This is how I can tell, as a chemist, that the results were legitimate. Until then, they are extremely questionable.

Word Gym. This is Shadow

 

[manny78]

And yes, you can have gear legally tested... even in the US. You first must gain DEA clearance.


-Stew

So lets have one, but man with all the good shit I heard on IP's products I dont hink a test is necessary.....he's legit !

 

[Slopain]

So lets have one, but man with all the good shit I heard on IP's products I dont hink a test is necessary.....he's legit !

lol who are you listening to? Listen Im not getting into a pissing match I show up to these threads just to let you know that most people that have been in this game for years will not touch that crap. No matter how many newbies get gains off of it. I remember my first cycle was 200mg deca/200mg of primo and I got 20 pounds off of it, now some of the new guys that grow on 500mg of this crap and think it must be legit when truth be known you had another 20 pounds waiting for you if it was quality gear. I know, I know.. everyone who used it has been using gear for 30 years

Lawnsaver, for the last time listen to me: I AM NOT CRITICAL OF YOU STOP ACTING IMMATURELY AND TAKING MY COMMENTS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK. I HAVE SAID THIS ALREADY DO YOU HERE ME? WHY DO YOU KEEP GETTING DEFENSIVE? I LIKE YOU AND I'VE TOLD PEOPLE THIS, I DO KNOW WHO TESTED THE STUFF, I KNEW THE FIRST TIME I READ IT, IT IS NOT A SECRET. ANY TEST WITHOUT PAPERWORK IS A BUNK TEST PURE AND SIMPLE.

I got no clue where you guys learned to be so trusting especially with a product like this.

I'm not flaming anyone, if you read my posts on this topic there are no flames, only the search for truth and not the truth b/c someone says it - rather because someone proves it.

 

[cgk123]

its legal to possess in canada

so i will look into what it costs here, then i will need some donations in the form of 1/2 the money up front and some samples. i will ask how many pills they want, maybe one is good enuff, maybe they want one from 3-4 diff batches.
hell if anyone wants send me a few dozen for payment. haha. lol

i am very interested in getting to the bottom of this as i was considering getting clen and t3 from among other things.

i am not guaranteeing i will do it either, cuz rite now i have no idea what the implications are or where the nearest lab is, but i will look into it.

 

[cgk123]

testing in canada

well i looked into a little and was stopped when the last number i was given in the run around had an answering machine that said they only work mon. -thur. 9am-3pm.

so any follow up will take until monday at least .

in the meantime i did not see anyone volunteering donations or pills to test?

 

[togi]

we are all tired my friend..pls go ahead and provide us more specific information..
I may get interested..