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chest day, dips?

Yeah I used to do chest/tris on the same day but im come up with a new routine. im going to try arms on a seperate day so im not doing bis/back chest/tris.
 
I do chest and biceps on the same day because chest uses a lot of triceps. So if you do tricep exercises before you do chest you can't work your chest as strong because you triceps are already somewhat fatigued. Same goes for if you do chest before tris. I also like to do chest/bis so that I kind of stretch my tris when I do bis after chest.
 
I do dips with chest and bi's.

incline bench
weighted dips
some sort of flye

I really lean into them and try to get the most out of my chest when doing them.
 
Stiffler, what's up man? Haven't seen you in a while. How's the wing?

You can do dips on chest or tri day, depending on how you do them. If you lean forward and go elbows out as you lower yourself, you'll be hitting more chest. If you stay more upright (perpendicular to the floor) and elbows in, you're hitting more tri.
 
gymtime said:
Stiffler, what's up man? Haven't seen you in a while. How's the wing?

You can do dips on chest or tri day, depending on how you do them. If you lean forward and go elbows out as you lower yourself, you'll be hitting more chest. If you stay more upright (perpendicular to the floor) and elbows in, you're hitting more tri.

100% agree!
 
I absolutely agree as well. Dips for chest and dips for tris are a different exercise. When I'm doing dips for chest I hardly feel the tris, but when I'm doing dips for tris, I only feel it in the tris. Those people who can't work out what routine to incorporate dips into must be doing a variation that is somewhere between chest dips and tricep dips.
 
This is my new workout routine;
Mon-chest
tues-back
wed-off
thurs-shouldes
fri-bis & tris
sat-legs
sun-off


hey Gymtime- yea I have been pretty busy with school, but now im starting up my cycle so im getting pretty pumped, so therefore i will be back on elite 24/7 for the next 12 weeks....lol
my arm is 98% back to its original strength! broke it on May 6th so it took 6 months to heal and I've been out of my cast/brace since Aug. 15th,so it took 2 months to get my strength back.
take it easy brother!:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
 
DaCypher said:
I do chest and biceps on the same day because chest uses a lot of triceps. So if you do tricep exercises before you do chest you can't work your chest as strong because you triceps are already somewhat fatigued. Same goes for if you do chest before tris. I also like to do chest/bis so that I kind of stretch my tris when I do bis after chest.

OK.. imo...i don't agree with chest and bis and i will tell ya why.. when you do chest, you begin to break down your triceps .. so you should continue with triceps to fully destroy them.. total exhaustion=recovery time=growth.. hence if you train chest and then on another day tris.. then you really need to give your tris a good 48 hour recovery from chest in order to fully break them down in their next workout..
so the only way i would agree with a c&bi / b&tri workout is if there is enough recovery time between them... maybe doing c&bi on a monday and b&tri not until thurs or fri.. ya with me :D

cool

;)
 
Do dips on both days. for chest day go widegrip and lean forward slightly. On arm day go narrow grip and keep body as upright as possible.
 
supergirl,

Yea, thats actually how I have it worked out. I have several days between chest day and tri's day. That is a pretty good point you're making about how you already begin to break down the tri's when doing chest, however you also work a lot of tri's when doing shoulders. So should you work tri's on shoulder days as well? Either way, the larger, more complex exercises should be done first no matter what you do after that. Doing tri's before chest wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
 
supergirl said:


OK.. imo...i don't agree with chest and bis and i will tell ya why.. when you do chest, you begin to break down your triceps .. so you should continue with triceps to fully destroy them.. total exhaustion=recovery time=growth.. hence if you train chest and then on another day tris.. then you really need to give your tris a good 48 hour recovery from chest in order to fully break them down in their next workout..
so the only way i would agree with a c&bi / b&tri workout is if there is enough recovery time between them... maybe doing c&bi on a monday and b&tri not until thurs or fri.. ya with me :D

cool

;)

I followed a routine along those lines about 6 months ago, the one thing that I noticed is that my tri's started to really lag behind everything else. Once I switched it up and went to chest/bi's rest back/tri's they started coming around again. I do agree with you on the rest period though. I don't think I'd get a very good workout if I didn't have that rest day in between.
 
the key is experimenting, changing things up and finding what works for your body...
as far as dips go (point of the whole thread lol) i used to do them on chest day, but my front delts got a little too big and i am now laying off.. i used them as a warmup for chest, really leaning in on my chest.. burned like hell, but i assume you can put them where ever the hell you want lol.. with tris, just come up straighter and really flex the tris :D
 
I'm glad to see some other guys who lean forward and hit the chest with dips. Guys in my gym don't seem to be aware of that exercise. When you go straight up and down, it's a totally different exercise. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but it's one thing to hit the triceps and another thing entirely to really blast your chest. The latter is more difficult and more intense.
 
Weighted dips on chest/tri day for me.

I got more strength gains doing a chest/tri and back/bi type of split than when I had arms on a completely seperate day.


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Didn't even know that you were still around Supergirl...you plan on hanging around the Training board more often???

We surely hope so..

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Didn't even know that you were still around Supergirl...you plan on hanging around the Training board more often???

We surely hope so..

B True

HEY b-fold.. it sure has been awhile..
i never actually go to this board, but this super old thread was in my thread subscriptions and popped up the other day.. LOL

shit is old as dirt!!! :)

come say hi over at musclezine.com you will see alot of familiar elite faces.. :fro:
 
supergirl said:


HEY b-fold.. it sure has been awhile..
i never actually go to this board, but this super old thread was in my thread subscriptions and popped up the other day.. LOL

shit is old as dirt!!! :)

come say hi over at musclezine.com you will see alot of familiar elite faces.. :fro:

Ok...I'll try to run over there sometime. I'm kinda partial to the training forum here at Elite...

Good to see you around...as always.

B True
 
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