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ChefBone, WTF? Riots in Toledo???
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it was Nazis? ze' Germans did this???4everhung said:
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NO. HT they neo nazi wanna-bes were planning a march and the people opposing them started a riot then started looting. Apparently the only people with free speech here are the poor minorities.
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the march went awry
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seriously these neo-nazi's have a real cash cow enterprise here
just mention to a "municipality" that you're going to march
then sue the piss out of them if they refuse to allow the march/demonstration
just mention to a "municipality" that you're going to march
then sue the piss out of them if they refuse to allow the march/demonstration
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HumanTarget said:
"Now listen hurr. Without black people you wont even have a phone. Alexander Grand Bell made the phone. And George Washington Carver made peanut butter. And I hope you choke on it. Plus without Charles Drew you would die in the hospital. So think before you type. Oh yeah I almst forgot. Without Thomas Edison BLACK friend around you wouldn't have light bulb. Holla at my back"
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"whaT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE? HOW CAN YOU HATE SOME ONE FOR THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN? WHITE AND BLACK ALIKE WERE BOTH RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME FUCKED UP SHIT. THE ENTIRE HUMANS SPECIES IS SHIT. WHAT HAVE WHITES BROUGHT TO THE TABLE? GENOCIDE.SITCOMS.PLAGUE.MARTHA STEWART. FUCKING POP MUSIC. WHAT HAVE BLACKS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE?GENOCIDE.SITCOMS.PLAGUE.P DIDDY. FUCKING POP MUSIC. YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS FUCKED. IVE GOT A THREE STEP PROCESS TO HELP YOU FUCKING IDIOTS OUT 1.PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS 2. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE ASSES OF YOUR IDIOTIC HEREOS 3. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FUCKING ROSES...FUCKING DIPSHITS"
I'm dying over here
I'm dying over here
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4everhung said:
Hey brother, your caps lock is on and well... whatever.
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I pulled both of those previous posts from some blogmountain muscle said:
cracks me up
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Reporter: "Mr President, what are your feelings on Roe vs Wade?"
Bush: "Gosh, I dont know. However folks can get out of New Orleans is fine by me. Evacuation is not really a FEMA responsibility you know"
Bush: "Gosh, I dont know. However folks can get out of New Orleans is fine by me. Evacuation is not really a FEMA responsibility you know"
i'm quite schooled in the art of misguided hatred. i ran with some skinheads for a bit during my younger years. i actually went to a rally once..... and it made me embaressed to be white. the things these idiots said, made me hide my face on the way out. and yeah, i hear the same from some of the black community i'm exposed to, i hear this hopeful preaching and then an hour later, the same people are piss drunk and throwing bricks through peoples windows. i don't have an answer for this, `cept, stop your marching and rallying until you have a plan.
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witness the two "color" commentary from some blog I stumbled onHumanTarget said:
loads of entertainment value
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the irony being that the "nazi's" got their point across w/o even marchingTheOak01 said:
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114 arrests
including 80 "adults"
including 80 "adults"
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" For those of you who don't know, the National Socialist Movement (sic) have organised a small march to protest racist antii-white crime in an area of Toledo called the LaGrange Project. Inspired by a recent incident of anti-white hate messages from a gang calling themselves the "Dexter Boyz" demanding that whites move out of the area or face death threats, the NSM intended to quietly show a National Soclailist precense in support of White solidarity."Whiskey said:
I pulled this from some neo-hitler forum
trust me people I don't have this shit bookmarked
I just googled it
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What Really Happened In Toledo
The Police And The City Double Crossed Us And Started A Riot
10/15/2005 6:11:44 PM
Bill White
Commentary --" Toledo Mayor Jack Ford said today that "someone will pay" for the rioting that occurred today in Toledo. Well, I hope someone does pay -- I hope he pays when the voters remove him from office. The rioting that is ongoing in Toledo right now is the direct result of Mayor Ford ordering the Toledo Police to betray us and set us up for a fight.
We had approximately 80 NSM members and 60 members of the public who showed up to demonstrate in Toledo. The plan which we had worked out with police had been this (and you can read old press releases on this website to confirm it):
We would gather at two locations -- one close to the rally site and one several miles away. We would send an advance security team to the public gathering place to secure it, and we would send another security team to secure the second staging area. Those security teams would arrive early, they would draw out the counter demonstrators, the counter demonstrators would do something stupid, like block a public street, get arrested en masse, and then we would have a peaceful march.
We realized there were problems the day before when the Toledo Police changed the parking situation. We had originally planned to enter the parking area through Mulberry. We told the Toledo Police we expected the protesters to march down Stickney. The day before the rally, the Toledo Police told us the protestors would march down Mulberry and that we would have to enter the parking area through Stickney. I told the police that the protestors would almost certainly block Stickney, and that they needed to be ready to have our members enter through Mulberry. They told me they had better intelligence than I did and that things were going to go their way. Well, they did -- they turned into a riot.
Our security forces deployed fine. We had twenty four men -- twelve at each location -- early in the morning. The communist demonstration drew about 40 people -- 20 members of the International Socialist Organization and 20 members of the One People's Project and the Northeast Federation Of Anarchist Communists, under the banner of "Anti-Racist Action".
The only surprise in the morning is that the police did not deploy a single person to the communist demonstration. We had told them that the communists would begin a roving mob and start attacking people very early in the morning. They didn't want to pay their men the extra overtime, and had not arranged for police officers to deploy until 10 - 11 AM.
The ARA showed up around 10:30 AM, but didn't have the numbers to take on our twelve advance guys, so they stared at us for a while, and then were forced across the street by police. They and the ISO were joined by about twelve kids, aged 13-17, wearing red, "the bloods", two other groups of about twelve black kids each, and maybe 50 onlookers, mostly black.
Around 10:30 I asked our other position to send me every extra security person they had. I then went to Lt Greg Sekela of the Toledo Police and asked him where he wanted to us to enter the parking lot from. He told me from Stickney. I pointed out to him that there was an angry mob of about 120 people standing on Stickney, and suggested he open up Mulberry. He told me that Stickney would be fine. At this point the police still had control, and I agreed.
By 11 AM we had 21 men and women. So far, so good. But by 11:30 there were people I knew who were in town who were not arriving. Then five guys from Toledo came over and said "you know there are a lot of people standing at the barricades who can't get in".
I asked Lt Sekela about this. On camera, he told me that the police had decided to seal the whole area and that no one was being let in. I pointed out to him that we had over 40 of our members coming who had not yet arrived, plus members of the public. He said they could park on the street and walk in. I asked him where they should walk in -- and how would they know to walk there? He said they had to walk in Stickney, and that we should tell them. I pointed out that I didn't have communications open with all these people. He told be "too bad, they can go home."
Well, what happened is that little groups of our supporters started to gather at the police barricades, as they tried to figure out how to get in. The communists spotted one of those groups, and started running at them. That was the spark that lit the riot.
The communists started passing out eggs and rocks to the black juveniles. The black kids started throwing them at the police. The police became overwhelmed and started retreating. The blacks smelled blood, and started running down the streets attacking anyone they could -- one member of the press had his jeep destroyed and I was told was beaten quite badly very early in the rally.
At the time the rioting started, we were holding a press conference. We had 33 people who got inside the police lines, but the police decided that 12 of them could not march -- they would have to stay behind in the parking lot. Why, I'm not sure -- the police basically felt that anyone who was not wearing a uniform could not participate in our rally.
As we were finishing the press conference and beginning to march the police suddenly threw up a line of officers and started pushing against us, trying to push us back. Our members started pushing back -- these were our security guys and they had been ordered not to be physically moved by anyone. The police announced "you're not marching", but stopped the pushing. There was a brief negotiation, we were told the police had lost control of the situation, and we were told if we did not leave immediately we would all be arrested. We argued, and they started saying "if you don't leave, we're going to be overrun at this position." I said "we're not afraid to stand and fight." Without going blow by blow, the police ordered us again to leave, and since I was under orders to obey the police, I told our men to leave.
We regrouped outside the riot zone, held some press conferences, and then I got called away to Columbus to do some interviews from the nearest Satellite uplink. Fox has already said they would rather cover the avian bird flu than the race riots -- i.e., the cancelled. I don't know if I'll be on any other stations.
This riot can be blamed on three sets of people:
1) The communists, who came to the area with weapons, handed them out to the blacks, and incited the blacks to riot;
2) The blacks, who engaged in the exact type of racial violence we had gathered to protest; and,
3) The police and the City of Toledo, who double crossed us with the intent of driving down our numbers, who ignored our intelligence, which was much better than theirs, who coordinated, rehearsed and planned the security with us, then changed plans without notice, and who, most importantly, ordered our member to park on the street where the communists and blacks were protesting, refused to open the parking lot up to our members, and started a riot by trapping our members, denying them access to the security we had put in place to protect our members, and forcing them into a situation where it was obvious there would be violent conflict.
My understanding is that the rioting in Toledo is continuing. There have been some buildings burned, but they are all commercial buildings. The cowardly and incompetent Toledo police are refusing to enter the riot zone -- because of budget cuts, they don't have enough officers, and the Mayor has ordered them not to suppress the blacks because the election is a few days away and he doesn't want to lose votes.
The only people who entered and exited the riot zone safely were the NSM, and neither us nor any member of the public who sided with us has been hurt or arrested in conjunction with the rioting.
I will report more when I return to Roanoke. This is coming from Columbus, Ohio."
The Police And The City Double Crossed Us And Started A Riot
10/15/2005 6:11:44 PM
Bill White
Commentary --" Toledo Mayor Jack Ford said today that "someone will pay" for the rioting that occurred today in Toledo. Well, I hope someone does pay -- I hope he pays when the voters remove him from office. The rioting that is ongoing in Toledo right now is the direct result of Mayor Ford ordering the Toledo Police to betray us and set us up for a fight.
We had approximately 80 NSM members and 60 members of the public who showed up to demonstrate in Toledo. The plan which we had worked out with police had been this (and you can read old press releases on this website to confirm it):
We would gather at two locations -- one close to the rally site and one several miles away. We would send an advance security team to the public gathering place to secure it, and we would send another security team to secure the second staging area. Those security teams would arrive early, they would draw out the counter demonstrators, the counter demonstrators would do something stupid, like block a public street, get arrested en masse, and then we would have a peaceful march.
We realized there were problems the day before when the Toledo Police changed the parking situation. We had originally planned to enter the parking area through Mulberry. We told the Toledo Police we expected the protesters to march down Stickney. The day before the rally, the Toledo Police told us the protestors would march down Mulberry and that we would have to enter the parking area through Stickney. I told the police that the protestors would almost certainly block Stickney, and that they needed to be ready to have our members enter through Mulberry. They told me they had better intelligence than I did and that things were going to go their way. Well, they did -- they turned into a riot.
Our security forces deployed fine. We had twenty four men -- twelve at each location -- early in the morning. The communist demonstration drew about 40 people -- 20 members of the International Socialist Organization and 20 members of the One People's Project and the Northeast Federation Of Anarchist Communists, under the banner of "Anti-Racist Action".
The only surprise in the morning is that the police did not deploy a single person to the communist demonstration. We had told them that the communists would begin a roving mob and start attacking people very early in the morning. They didn't want to pay their men the extra overtime, and had not arranged for police officers to deploy until 10 - 11 AM.
The ARA showed up around 10:30 AM, but didn't have the numbers to take on our twelve advance guys, so they stared at us for a while, and then were forced across the street by police. They and the ISO were joined by about twelve kids, aged 13-17, wearing red, "the bloods", two other groups of about twelve black kids each, and maybe 50 onlookers, mostly black.
Around 10:30 I asked our other position to send me every extra security person they had. I then went to Lt Greg Sekela of the Toledo Police and asked him where he wanted to us to enter the parking lot from. He told me from Stickney. I pointed out to him that there was an angry mob of about 120 people standing on Stickney, and suggested he open up Mulberry. He told me that Stickney would be fine. At this point the police still had control, and I agreed.
By 11 AM we had 21 men and women. So far, so good. But by 11:30 there were people I knew who were in town who were not arriving. Then five guys from Toledo came over and said "you know there are a lot of people standing at the barricades who can't get in".
I asked Lt Sekela about this. On camera, he told me that the police had decided to seal the whole area and that no one was being let in. I pointed out to him that we had over 40 of our members coming who had not yet arrived, plus members of the public. He said they could park on the street and walk in. I asked him where they should walk in -- and how would they know to walk there? He said they had to walk in Stickney, and that we should tell them. I pointed out that I didn't have communications open with all these people. He told be "too bad, they can go home."
Well, what happened is that little groups of our supporters started to gather at the police barricades, as they tried to figure out how to get in. The communists spotted one of those groups, and started running at them. That was the spark that lit the riot.
The communists started passing out eggs and rocks to the black juveniles. The black kids started throwing them at the police. The police became overwhelmed and started retreating. The blacks smelled blood, and started running down the streets attacking anyone they could -- one member of the press had his jeep destroyed and I was told was beaten quite badly very early in the rally.
At the time the rioting started, we were holding a press conference. We had 33 people who got inside the police lines, but the police decided that 12 of them could not march -- they would have to stay behind in the parking lot. Why, I'm not sure -- the police basically felt that anyone who was not wearing a uniform could not participate in our rally.
As we were finishing the press conference and beginning to march the police suddenly threw up a line of officers and started pushing against us, trying to push us back. Our members started pushing back -- these were our security guys and they had been ordered not to be physically moved by anyone. The police announced "you're not marching", but stopped the pushing. There was a brief negotiation, we were told the police had lost control of the situation, and we were told if we did not leave immediately we would all be arrested. We argued, and they started saying "if you don't leave, we're going to be overrun at this position." I said "we're not afraid to stand and fight." Without going blow by blow, the police ordered us again to leave, and since I was under orders to obey the police, I told our men to leave.
We regrouped outside the riot zone, held some press conferences, and then I got called away to Columbus to do some interviews from the nearest Satellite uplink. Fox has already said they would rather cover the avian bird flu than the race riots -- i.e., the cancelled. I don't know if I'll be on any other stations.
This riot can be blamed on three sets of people:
1) The communists, who came to the area with weapons, handed them out to the blacks, and incited the blacks to riot;
2) The blacks, who engaged in the exact type of racial violence we had gathered to protest; and,
3) The police and the City of Toledo, who double crossed us with the intent of driving down our numbers, who ignored our intelligence, which was much better than theirs, who coordinated, rehearsed and planned the security with us, then changed plans without notice, and who, most importantly, ordered our member to park on the street where the communists and blacks were protesting, refused to open the parking lot up to our members, and started a riot by trapping our members, denying them access to the security we had put in place to protect our members, and forcing them into a situation where it was obvious there would be violent conflict.
My understanding is that the rioting in Toledo is continuing. There have been some buildings burned, but they are all commercial buildings. The cowardly and incompetent Toledo police are refusing to enter the riot zone -- because of budget cuts, they don't have enough officers, and the Mayor has ordered them not to suppress the blacks because the election is a few days away and he doesn't want to lose votes.
The only people who entered and exited the riot zone safely were the NSM, and neither us nor any member of the public who sided with us has been hurt or arrested in conjunction with the rioting.
I will report more when I return to Roanoke. This is coming from Columbus, Ohio."
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"The communists started passing out eggs and rocks to the black juveniles. The black kids started throwing them at the police. The police became overwhelmed and started retreating. The blacks smelled blood, and started running down the streets attacking anyone they could -- one member of the press had his jeep destroyed and I was told was beaten quite badly very early in the rally."
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"Hello all:
All I can add to that is Toledo Mayor Jack Ford and Police Chief Michael Navarre deliberately set up a confrontation in the hopes our members would be attacked and do something dishonorable, like run away, and instead it was their police officers who ended up turning tale, screaming for help, throwing down their weapons and running, and otherwise behaving like cowards that was essentially a bunch of children, aged 13 to 17, with sticks.
Disgusting. Honestly, Toledo, if you want these people running your city, this is what you deserved.
Bill"-more commentary from that swastika forum
honestly it does sound to me that the two groups of nazi's had some serious balls
All I can add to that is Toledo Mayor Jack Ford and Police Chief Michael Navarre deliberately set up a confrontation in the hopes our members would be attacked and do something dishonorable, like run away, and instead it was their police officers who ended up turning tale, screaming for help, throwing down their weapons and running, and otherwise behaving like cowards that was essentially a bunch of children, aged 13 to 17, with sticks.
Disgusting. Honestly, Toledo, if you want these people running your city, this is what you deserved.
Bill"-more commentary from that swastika forum
honestly it does sound to me that the two groups of nazi's had some serious balls
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HumanTarget said:
Michigan peeps frown upon Toledo peeps, def. second class citizens. I still think michigan should have Toledo in it's borders. someday the michigan flag will proudly fly over the rust and crime of toledo
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Gambino said:
Ohio peeps frown on Toledo peeps.lol. Actually, alot of people from Toledo are moving into MI to get away from the crime etc.
I just can't believe it happened in one of the better sections of Toledo. I could see it happening in the hood I lived in when I live there.
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4everhung is on more interesting sites than I am. Good stuff.
chefbone said:Yo.....Can you believe the Mayor of Toledo just said this was not race related. BTW, this is an election year, the Mayor is Black and his wife is White!
Mayor Ford has done more harm than good in this city. Good= increasing medical coverage to the less fortunate; Bad=everything else
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chefbone said:It's exactly what the Neo-Nazi's wanted. They knew the shit-slingin', ghetto tribesman of Toledo would react in an uncivilized manner. It totally proved there point.
And what point would that be? That if you take a community of FAR left wingers and you have a far right march in thier backyard that they'll react violently?
To flip the script, I wonder what would happen if ther was a million man march in bensonhurst???
onder:Things that make you go hrmmm...
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there was only a couple dozen or so skin-nazi'sgjohnson5 said:And what point would that be? That if you take a community of FAR left wingers and you have a far right march in thier backyard that they'll react violently?
To flip the script, I wonder what would happen if ther was a million man march in bensonhurst???
Things that make you go hrmmm...
come-on show a little restraint and self-discipline
attack buildings and property instead?
wtf?
those people "showed their ass" because a few nazi neanderthals wanted to dress up and salute and shit
LOL its so hilarious that just because a group has views different than yours it is considered "wrong" for them to have a protest.
So, only minorities and women can protest?
There are a lot of Mexicans that protest around here for California to be returned to Mexico. I think I should start looting stores and burning cars so that I can get my point across that I dont tolerate any views different than my own. That would be productive.
So, only minorities and women can protest?
There are a lot of Mexicans that protest around here for California to be returned to Mexico. I think I should start looting stores and burning cars so that I can get my point across that I dont tolerate any views different than my own. That would be productive.
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Maybe its because its where they live and where the violence is occuring? The Million Man march was set near DC because thats where important decisions were made. Illegal immigrants march near So.Cal. because thats the area they want returned to Mexico. And white Neo-Nazis march in black neighborhoods in Toledo because thats where the crime against them has originated.
God, Ive said it before and Ill say it again. The world would be better off if people as ignorant as yourself werent around.
Riots suck.
awittyusername said:
Most of America frowns on Ohio, sadly, during this country's proto-Industrialist days it served a purpse.
Better section of Toledo is an oxymoron.
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