Change of plans! (2nd cycle)

[sPHERE]

Sup guys,

I made a thread a couple of months ago about my next cycle. I was originally going to do a Test Enth + Tbol cycle, but recently decided to try Dbol before I try Tbol.

However, Im going to combine it with an AI to minimize bloat (not gyno prone tho, but I bloated alot in my face during my first cycle of 500mg test enth...), and since my source is out of arimidex and doens't carry Aromasin, it will be a very low dose of Letro 3times a week.

So here goes:

Test Enth @ 500mg/week - Week 1-12
Dbol @ 30mg/day - Week 1-6
Letro @ 0.625mg 3times a week - Week 1-13
HCG @ 500ui/week - Week 5-10
Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 - Week 15-18

A benefit of doing the letro i guess, is that it will probably be easier to reduce fat from cardio.

I will do my usual workout routine, with lifting 4 times a week + cardio 2 times a week.

Sunday completely off + high cal. day.

Hopefully I won't get any noticable estrogen rebound from the letro because of the dosage. I figured I'd stop it about a week before I begin with nolva because of the half time.

The diet will be approx:

300-350g proteins
300-350g carbs
50-100g fat (mostly healthy fats from oliveoil, omega 3-6-9 ++)

This will put me at around 3500+ calories a day, which I guess will be sufficient for some decent gains. Will also be doing creatine mono.

So what do you guys think?

Thanks

 

[ChangNam]

bro if u complane about water retention. why do u want to go for test e and dbol ? u kan throw in the letro x 3 times a week. but i gues u stil will be bloated. try the tbol insted bro.

 

[ChangNam]

one more thing 12 weeks is to much i think. gues i will start a thread about that right now...

 

[sPHERE]

Because test is what i want to build my cycles upon, and since I know dbol can be an incredible drug I want to try it. I know i can reduce bloat with an AI, so i figured why not.

 

[sPHERE]

one more thing 12 weeks is to much i think. gues i will start a thread about that right now...

Why is 12 weeks too long? Alot of people do both 14 and 16 week long cycles and recover from them with no problem. I cant imagine 12 weeks being so much worse than 10.

When I did my first cycle, I regret that I didn't do 12 weeks instead of 10 because it takes so long for the test to kick in.

 

[needtogetaas]

12 weeks is not to long. Anyway running letro unless you really must is not the best idea. I would go with adex or forma-stanzol.

 

[ChangNam]

Why is 12 weeks too long? Alot of people do both 14 and 16 week long cycles and recover from them with no problem. I cant imagine 12 weeks being so much worse than 10.

When I did my first cycle, I regret that I didn't do 12 weeks instead of 10 because it takes so long for the test to kick in.

i am no fan of long cycles. and with the test e and tbol/dbol. will u stop gain waight after week 6-8. maby u gaine some more waight. but not to much. and thats why i think it is waist of time and gear.

 

[sPHERE]

After countless hours of reading + my first cycle, I dont agree. It was from week 5 to 10 of my first cycle that I gained the most weight, and I didn't feel the test losing it's effects at all. If anything, it was at the strongest around week 8-10.

 

[sPHERE]

12 weeks is not to long. Anyway running letro unless you really must is not the best idea. I would go with adex or forma-stanzol.

Thanks man. I agree that letro probably isn't the best option, but even at such a low dosage, do you think it will be too strong?

 

[sPHERE]

Any other things I could do better with the cycle? Except for the letro. And has anyone had success with using it during cycle?