change in cycle

[The Rage]

was going to run a bulker then take some time off and go w/ a cutter but i decided to combine them and run a 10-12 week bulker and 8-10 week cutter immediately afterward.

Right now i'm running:
BULKER
weeks 1-10 test E 500mg EW
weeks 1-14 EQ 600mg EW
weeks 1-3 dbol 40mg ED (finished)
weeks 1-4 prop 100mg EOD (finished)
weeks 6-9 or 9-12 IGF 80mcg PWO

then i'll follow with:
CUTTER
weeks 13-20 test prop 100mg ED
weeks 13-20 tren ace 100mg ED
weeks 13-20 clen/thermorexin (switching 2 on clen, 2 on thermorexin, ramping clen)
weeks 14-17 or 17-20 IGF 80mcg PWO
weeks 13-20 clean, calorie deficient diet with lots of cardio

followed by clomid or hcg for pct??? would clomid be enough? i read that IGF does a similar job as hcg by releasing LH or something like that, is that right? any extra advice is appreciated. thanx for your help in advance.

 

[The Rage]

bump... anyone?

 

[The Rage]

hmmmm... nothin?

 

[karter]

?????? How many cycles, Last cycle, how old, goals ?????

 

[genman]

was going to run a bulker then take some time off and go w/ a cutter but i decided to combine them and run a 10-12 week bulker and 8-10 week cutter immediately afterward.

Right now i'm running:
BULKER
weeks 1-10 test E 500mg EW
weeks 1-14 EQ 600mg EW
weeks 1-3 dbol 40mg ED (finished)
weeks 1-4 prop 100mg EOD (finished)
weeks 6-9 or 9-12 IGF 80mcg PWO

then i'll follow with:
CUTTER
weeks 13-20 test prop 100mg ED
weeks 13-20 tren ace 100mg ED
weeks 13-20 clen/thermorexin (switching 2 on clen, 2 on thermorexin, ramping clen)
weeks 14-17 or 17-20 IGF 80mcg PWO
weeks 13-20 clean, calorie deficient diet with lots of cardio

followed by clomid or hcg for pct??? would clomid be enough? i read that IGF does a similar job as hcg by releasing LH or something like that, is that right? any extra advice is appreciated. thanx for your help in advance.

The clen, tren, cardio thing will be rough. Good luck to you if you can do cardio on 100 mg/ed tren, I get winded when I dead lift on the stuff. Also, clen scares me with the other compounds you're taking. Thermo 2 wk on/ 2wk off may be better. I like the IGF part of your cutter, but I would swap out winny for the tren. That's just me, it may treat you differently. Obviously, have a serious, well thought out pct ready to go.

 

[The Rage]

The clen, tren, cardio thing will be rough. Good luck to you if you can do cardio on 100 mg/ed tren, I get winded when I dead lift on the stuff. Also, clen scares me with the other compounds you're taking. Thermo 2 wk on/ 2wk off may be better. I like the IGF part of your cutter, but I would swap out winny for the tren. That's just me, it may treat you differently. Obviously, have a serious, well thought out pct ready to go.

yeah i dont do too bad on tren. last time it was 50mg ED though. i do have winny also though that i've been holding on to. but yeah i did get winded from tren a bit but i'm hoping i can bear through it. if not i'll switch off.

but i had a question a/b pct. i read that IGF does something similar to hcg so i was wondering if hcg should be used for pct? i already have clomid i just have to order the hcg. oh and i have AIFM that i'll run for pct as well.

 

[The Rage]

?????? How many cycles, Last cycle, how old, goals ?????

stats are:

21
5'10"
202-205 lbs right now
b/f% normally around 15% if i had to guess but not sure. holding a little extra right now
last cycle was dbol/prop/tren each at 50mgs a day for 8 weeks i think (dbol only for 4 weeks) ... that was my second cycle i guess. first was sust but i didnt know what i was doing at the time and had no pct so i lost it all

my goals overall are to be around 225 with 12% bf or less of course i may not be satisfied with this when i get there so we'll see.
my goal for the proposed cycle is to gain as much mass as possible at first and then cut off some unwanted fat while maintaining muscle. and of course i hope to keep as much as possible after pct.

 

[genman]

yeah i dont do too bad on tren. last time it was 50mg ED though. i do have winny also though that i've been holding on to. but yeah i did get winded from tren a bit but i'm hoping i can bear through it. if not i'll switch off.

but i had a question a/b pct. i read that IGF does something similar to hcg so i was wondering if hcg should be used for pct? i already have clomid i just have to order the hcg. oh and i have AIFM that i'll run for pct as well.

IGF is very different from HCG. USE the comid and HCG for your pct and AIFM on cycle, 2 pumps per day. Good luck.

 

[The Rage]

IGF is very different from HCG. USE the comid and HCG for your pct and AIFM on cycle, 2 pumps per day. Good luck.

yeah i didnt mean it was like the same as hcg i just thought it somehow helped bring back your natty test levels or something. i thought i read that. ne wayz i'm loving this cycle so far. i cant wait to see my end results