Certification?

[visions]

Does anybody recommend issa as opposed to ace or vice versa? Also what is the cheapest and most effective way to obtain either of these certifications? Is their an online resource maybe where I can find more information?

Thanks.

 

[Mike P.T.]

www.fitnesseducation.com

I.S.S.A. hands down. Even though Ace has been around longer I.S.S.A. is more updated I feel and focuses on new science rather than the old beliefs that the ACE book recommends. Like im pretty sure ACE has that whole 60% of daily allowance as carbs bullshit. I.S.S.A. focuses on the individual and there individual metabolisms.(this is just dieting aspects because of course it covers more.) Good luck bro.

 

[BackDoc]

Just 2 cents: If I recall correctly, ACE is the only non-profit certifying agency for PT's (although it may have changed now). That would keep the price lower than most others. I'm not aware of the cheapest way to get certification from them.

 

[visions]

www.fitnesseducation.com

I.S.S.A. hands down. Even though Ace has been around longer I.S.S.A. is more updated I feel and focuses on new science rather than the old beliefs that the ACE book recommends. Like im pretty sure ACE has that whole 60% of daily allowance as carbs bullshit. I.S.S.A. focuses on the individual and there individual metabolisms.(this is just dieting aspects because of course it covers more.) Good luck bro.

yea I was there, does 600 bucks get you everything plus the certification? Is that for the most part a standard price for certification?

 

[Mike P.T.]

yea I was there, is that 600 bucks get you everything plus the certification? Is that for the most part a standard price for certification?

Well no because I have seen others that are real cheap. 200$ or so. Seriously though, THEY SUCK for the most part. I.S.S.A. takes care of you bro. Once your certified with them you can access the forums under a handle and constantly learn more and get updates. They also help you with finding jobs and actually come with another book teaching you sales techniques and everything. Very well rounded. If you choose to go even further they offer a wide array of other courses as well Like Performance Nutrition, Fitness Therapy, Sports Conditioning and many more.

Remember though being certifed never guaruntees you are going to be good. Make sure to keep yourself updated all the time. Science never stands still.

 

[visions]

Well no because I have seen others that are real cheap. 200$ or so. Seriously though, THEY SUCK for the most part. I.S.S.A. takes care of you bro. Once your certified with them you can access the forums under a handle and constantly learn more and get updates. They also help you with finding jobs and actually come with another book teaching you sales techniques and everything. Very well rounded. If you choose to go even further they offer a wide array of other courses as well Like Performance Nutrition, Fitness Therapy, Sports Conditioning and many more.

Remember though being certifed never guaruntees you are going to be good. Make sure to keep yourself updated all the time. Science never stands still.

good advice, thanks bro, I mean I talked to the head fitness trainer at my gym and he said ace or issa will be sufficient, its also real phat cause at crunch they offer a continuing education, along with a in house training program so your knowledge will never be stagnant. Even still I gather the most important element of physical training relationship is the trainer client relationship?

 

[Mike P.T.]

good advice, thanks bro, I mean I talked to the head fitness trainer at my gym and he said ace or issa will be sufficient, its also real phat cause at crunch they offer a continuing education, along with a in house training program so your knowledge will never be stagnant. Even still I gather the most important element of physical training relationship is the trainer client relationship?

Definately another key to success of course. They even talk about that in the I.S.S.A. guide. How if you are not sociable, friendly, and outgoing you will not be as good as someone who is. But who doesn't know that. Lucky for me im not shy about anything. I'd go up to anybody.

 

[visions]

Definately another key to success of course. They even talk about that in the I.S.S.A. guide. How if you are not sociable, friendly, and outgoing you will not be as good as someone who is. But who doesn't know that. Lucky for me im not shy about anything. I'd go up to anybody.

yea definitely, given the right environment I'm extremely outgoing, but as I've gotten older I have more inhibitions about approaching people, not quite sure where it comes from and whether it's a positive thing or not, just kinda is what it is. I definitely don't think given the authority will be outspoken about trying to help people in general on some basics such as form, and then work the conversation towards what commitement they are willing into really making a difference for themself both physically and mentally. I'm real excited and motivated to do this, because I know this passion for health and fitness isn't going anywhere considering it's been around my whole life.

 

[Sexual Mustard]

honestly the real difference between certifications is MONEY. That's all these organizations care about. In the real world, a certification is a certification....your clients don't know the difference between ISSA, ACSM, ACE, or C.R.A.P.... as long as you can produce results and have credibility. Besides, most people see that if you have the initials CPT after your name, then that's good enough for them. You're special. So in this case, go for the cheapest to save yourself money..... take an online course for $50 if possible.

I say "real world" because we're talking about people who just want to get in shape, and/or lose weight, etc. The majority of your clientelle. There are gyms who will only hire trainers with certain certifications, but there are others who'll take almost anybody. I would personally try to work for myself since all the profit would go to me.

 

[visions]

honestly the real difference between certifications is MONEY. That's all these organizations care about. In the real world, a certification is a certification....your clients don't know the difference between ISSA, ACSM, ACE, or C.R.A.P.... as long as you can produce results and have credibility. Besides, most people see that if you have the initials CPT after your name, then that's good enough for them. You're special. So in this case, go for the cheapest to save yourself money..... take an online course for $50 if possible.

I say "real world" because we're talking about people who just want to get in shape, and/or lose weight, etc. The majority of your clientelle. There are gyms who will only hire trainers with certain certifications, but there are others who'll take almost anybody. I would personally try to work for myself since all the profit would go to me.

yea I hear that but why sell yourself short of opportunities? The guy at the gym around the corner from my house said one or the other so, I kinda have to, because that really is my best opportunity its a big gym right on 59th and 2nd

 

[Sexual Mustard]

Opportunities come from results, word of mouth, and how you advertise yourself my friend. I know trainers who have no certification, but are doing quite well for themselves because they know their shit. On the other hand, I also know a couple trainers from my gym with ACE certifications and nutrition/excercise science degrees/diplomas who don't get much business. They also don't know how to TRAIN; they just have memorized facts from a book.

Also, keep in mind that if you look like you're in shape, you're more likely to be credible and get more clients. Before/after pics of people you may have worked with (or friends) will help. Any powerlifting, bodybuilding, or any other athletic accomplishments will help greatly. We have a couple of fat and super-skinny trainers at our gym; they don't seem to be nearly as busy training as the ones who look decent.

I'm just saying that you don't necessarily need to get the most expensive certification out there (I still say it's raping for money!); just put your mind to it and you'll succeed. It'll take some time anyway to become a successful trainer.

 

[HighIntensity]

http://www.nfpt.com/


another option at half the price and its a great program...
aces is finr though