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Cell Tech and Cutting
- Thread starter calvinIII
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diamonddiceclay
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creatine will cause water retention so I'd skip it until you bulk
macrophage69alpha
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creatine can be used at any time, though you wont get the same uptake when cutting (unless you insulin spike.. high carb after workout-- which cell tech at a higher than necessary cost will provide
riskybizz007
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cell tech is a rip off. You can get dextrose and better creatine for less money, even a quarter of the price. But if you're cutting you do have to be careful w/ the dextrose. It's not so much a matter w/ the creatine, but w/ the extra carbs you're throwing into the system.
riskybizz007
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My post workout shake remains the same whether I'm cutting or not. What changes are the other meals.
riskybizz007
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Flax and ALA I take whether I'm cutting or not. They're excellent supplements and both serve many purposes.
As far as creatine goes if you don't mind the extra water retention while cutting do it. I personally don't like all that water retention when i'm trying to cut and define, i prefer it when bulking.
As far as creatine goes if you don't mind the extra water retention while cutting do it. I personally don't like all that water retention when i'm trying to cut and define, i prefer it when bulking.
originally posted by calvinIII
What do you guys think,
Should creatine be used when cutting or not.
Also does Cell Tech have too much sugar or is it high quality Dextrose and will it be ok in a cutting cycle? If you keep the calories low?
Dextrose is dextrose. It's a high glycemic carbohydrate. End of story. It's going to make your body release insulin to bring your blood-glucose levels back down to the norm, with that, shuttling any nutrients currently in the system to the muscle cells. So if there's more than just protein there, than you run the risk of shuttling fat to the muscle cell as well.
A little sugar won't be bad thing, at least post workout time. Taking that sugar is important to initiate glycogen synthesis. If you're that worried about it, then just stay away from the dextrose. Just take straight creatine without the dextrose. Use ALA instead. You'll be fine.
Another important point, creatine should theoretically make you hold water within the muscle cell, not between the muscle and skin. Water within your muscle cell is a good thing, not a bad thing. Granted, too much could counteract your process of getting lean(well, more of getting that hard look), but you don't want to be too dehydrated.
Make sure you're getting plenty of potassium, magnesium, and calcium through out the day. Depleating sodium should work fine to keep you from holding too much water, so that way you don't have to cut back on the creatine.
ISN_Man said:
Another important point, creatine should theoretically make you hold water within the muscle cell, not between the muscle and skin. Water within your muscle cell is a good thing, not a bad thing. Granted, too much could counteract your process of getting lean(well, more of getting that hard look), but you don't want to be too dehydrated.
Make sure you're getting plenty of potassium, magnesium, and calcium through out the day. Depleating sodium should work fine to keep you from holding too much water, so that way you don't have to cut back on the creatine.
Finally, someone recognizes creatine water retention intra-cellular as opposed to extra-cellular. Studies still show a small amount is held outside the cell, but nowhere near what is assumed by most. Good post!
Phenotype X
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you'll probably end up looking a little more bloated rather than more cut.
I know plenty of drug-free bodybuilders who load creatine a couple of days before a show and come in freaky lean on the day of the competition. You won't be bloated if you use straight creatine, and the rest of your diet is on target for leaning out. One of the biggest things you should do to combat the bloating is depleat sodium. It's one of the main reasons for bloating. As I said before, creatine will promote muscle cell volumization by holding water within the muscle cell, not between the muscle and the skin. So keep on a strict diet and take straight creatine. You'll be fine.
originally posted by rgosit
but will it make me ne amount heavier? i will b on a strickt diet..but will ne of the extra water make me heavier because i have to make a certian weight,.??
Taking straight creatine without the added dextrose shouldn't account for much more then a 2-3 pound weight increase. So just factor that in just in case it's the same situation for you. On the other hand, you may not increase in weight at all. It could go both ways, but you won't have some sort of rediculous weight increase because of straight creatine. Thats nothing to worry about.
originally posted by rgosit
i have 65 grams of dectrose with my postworkout shake....is that bad too??/
You may want to try half of that if you're really trying to lean out. Granted, the post workout shake is very important to jump starting protein/glycogen synthesis, but still, you don't want too much. Try decreasing the amount of carbs in your post-workout shake a little and see how you react to it. If your body is still able to recover and function fine with 35-40 grams of dextrose post workout, then stick with that. Most importantly, you just want to make sure you're maintaining your lean muscle tissue, not utilizing it as fuel because of your decreased caloric intake.
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