CEE versu CM (after the publication of recent studies)

[slat1]

could you actually clarify why CM it is a superior product vs CEE as you have only stated thats its better? i understand your friend works in the industry and his past achievements, but that has no reflection on the actual product in question.

i have personally found it to be the complete the opposite, CEE out performs CM by far, as have most people i have spoken to who have tried both (both competitors and recreational).

CM has caused water retention (bloat) not just saturation of the muscles, with a consequential rise in BP and alteration of kidney function - none of these have been noted with CEE. also CEE requires less product to be ingested to cause saturation, and requires no loading phase - to be honest CM doesnt actually require a loading phase either, since we have tried both methods (a loading phase, and no loading phase) and found zero difference in end result.

I can't find anything on his site or the email.
I will keep searching.

 

[Magick69]

what do u think about Patrick Arnold statement on CEE; i think it will explain why does not make you bloat
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"with CEE, you are able to get much higher increases in serum creatine than with monohydrate. now these increases are very brief compared to the much longer and more prolonged increases with creatine mono, but there may be some advantage to having super high levels, especially when you are working out and the blood is rushing to your muscles - especially if some is in the ethyl ester form.

I suspect this because I was made privy to the results of a study done by tom incledon which showed much more impressive strength gains and body composition improvements with CEE over mono. I figured there had to be an explanation

as far as CEE's passive diffusion properties goes, this theoretically may allow creatine loading beyond the finite capacity of your muscle cells as regulated by the activity of creatine transporters. the acheivment of supraphysiological creatine loading has been one of the goals of creatine researchers (like greenhaf) for over a decade."

 

[Stryker1992]

I have used a lot of deferent kinds and I still think eas creatine phosphoruses was and is the best...dont know why it just worked the best for me...and I work on for sponsors on this site that sell deferent brands so for me to say eas is better then there says a lot.

creatine mono for me. i researched it when i was doing my masters degree in exercise science and all of th subjects had very posiitve results on cm.

 

[justinjones1963]

CM for me too.