well my first cycle,i never had a clue about it i just gave the money and put the needels in ,i payed about $16 a amp of sustonon 250,I got 15 of them cost me about $250 and I got 100 D-bol totle cost $350 and I grow I gained about 25 lds.and that was my biggest cycle now im starting my 5th in 2 weeks time this one will cost $800 im hoping to get hugh,I have fina,sust,and d-bol .I know very little about the gear but I can tell you I never did take alot , I always had 1 bottle of stuff and d-bol and I gained pounds so if your doing your first cycle and stuck for money go with 20 amps of sust and d-bol pills,now guys don't be afraid to say im wrong becouse I no little about the gear, but I do know im 30-40 pounds heavyer now then a year and a half ago .