Cardio Question

[BrickGirl]

Okay, I am referring to actual cardio for the heart and not for fat burning, could careless about fat burning. Question is, would jumping rope for lets say 10 minutes straight be better for the heart and endurance than jumping rope for 20 minutes, but every 1 minute take a break and then jumprope again for 1 minutes, back and forth? another thing, I don't know if I could even jumprope for 10 minutes straight Any thoughts?

 

[spatts]

I always find intervals to be harder than doing something straight through.

I suck so bad at jumping rope that I HAVE to do intervals, because I trip at least once every minute.

 

[bignate73]

because I trip at least once every minute.

hooray for the non-jump ropers....

<1min club unite!!!

(we're talking jumping rope of course.)

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I think that if your heartrate is elevated into the heart-training zone (above 70% of max. heart rate) for a continuous total of 20 mins, you are fine, regardless of how you get there.

 

[newgirl-chargeback]

I wished I was better at jumping rope -- truth be told, I embarrass myself.

I was always taught intervals are far better for the heart conditioning as well as for endurance and building stamina over straight jumping even though at the time I was told this it seemed counter intuitive.

 

[Pink Space Biscuit]

I'm also a total clutz, but I tend to do better with those bulky macaroni noodle necklace type jump ropes, than the "rope" ropes.

Although those do leave a nasty sting on your shins when you do trip up.

 

[BrickGirl]

Masochistic Cardio

 

[wilson6]

BG,

You're basically defining interval work, speed play or Farlek style training.

Yes you'll get an aerobic training effect and probably some anaerobic as well depending on the level of intensity involved in the work sets. You have a 1:1 work:relief interval set up. You would want to use a "working-relief" for rest meaning a low intensity mode of exercise in-between (walking), vs sitting down for one minute know as "rest-relief".

Adding this in once a week or so is fine, but working near La threshold for 30 - 45 min a couple of times a week would be advised as well for general CV training.

W6

 

[BrickGirl]

Excellent, thank you all for the responses What I do now during the 1 minute "break" is lean against the wall with both arms and placing my head on the wall and gasping for air, will have to workup to the standing by myself, then possibly walking after that. Thanks!

 

[spatts]

You hardcore, sista.

 

[JJFigure]

I don't understand how people can do 3 or more minutes straight jump roping. I die around the one minute mark - every time I think I jumped more than a minute, I glance at the stop watch and it's only been like 50 seconds. It's very humbling.

 

[wilson6]

Technique and body weight. Some people hardly move to jump, the rope just glides under their feet, timing is perfect, little arm movement.

W6

 

[spatts]

My problem is the ceiling. I can go for quite a while outside, but in my gym I occassionally smack the joist and it trips me up. I don't jump very high, I keep my hands out wide, don't move my arms much (mostly wrist movement), but as I get tired, my arms come in and that makes the rope go higher...and SMACK...right on the shins.

 

[Sassy69]

I used to jump rope alot - I got a bug up my butt about not being able to do the stuff like the boxers do -- like W6 is talking about - they just could go for hours and it looks effortless. I picked it up again last fall and after about a week I was crippled. So much for that.

 

[slinky]

As W6 said. Also, another purpose of jump rope for the boxer is to work on keeping your feet light and your shoulders loose, relaxed. Has worked tremendously for me.

And it does take time to build up to that 3-minute round. Oh yeah.

As for steady/long term cardio. I still believe there is a purpose. It's good for someone who is embarking on the road to "get in shape" to begin with long term cardio. You know, to build up lung capacity. Once there however, then begin HIIT.

I realized this after having ran in the Hood To Coast back in '98. This is a 200-mile relay that is, yes from Mt. Hood to the coast. 2-teams of 6-runners each for each group. 30-hours of NO SLEEP. Wild. I trained for maybe 3 to 4-weeks out. I ended up running 8-minute miles (6.5; 7.2; 4.8 mile legs). And I ain't genetically suited to running long distances, but this certainly makes me think when someone tells me, I'm in excellent shape, I can do cardio FOREVER...."

Uh huh, more than likely they HAVE NOT tried HIIT. Kicks my ass everytime.

 

[valerie]

lol all, I find it a little hard on the bladder.


Envy the boxers they make look so easy.-valerie

 

[spatts]

Valerie, until my son was 6 weeks old, I couldn't take him to the gym with me, so I thought it would be a good idea to jump rope at home. Something about 8-10 pounds fighting with your bladder for months on end that makes that a not so good idea.

I didn't have a problem running though. I guess because I ran the whole time anyway? I dunno.

Slinky, that sounds awesome! I love the high I get from that kind of mind-game running...high enough to duck hunt with a rake.

 

[slinky]

Spatts:

Well, if you think along the same lines as I (and I'm suspecting you do ), then might enjoy it.

For instance, my first leg was ran at around 5PM on a Friday. The second leg at 1AM. And that leg was actually kinda cool. Pitch black with only a wee light on my cap to guide me and so quiet, save for the pitter patter of other runners. The third leg was ran around 4PM on Saturday and we were over the mountain and you could smell the sea water by that time. It was great. Party atmosphere all around. Oh, there were 1000 teams involved, too. It's pretty huge.

Ya just got to get useto the no sleep (even though we tried) and everyone gets REAL stinky, too. But there's beer afterwards!

Ha, "duck hunt with a rake" hehehehe

 

[JJFigure]

HIIT is a whole different world. I have to admit, I especially enjoy sprinting. Jump rope just kicks my fanny though.

I've attempted long runs - longest was 10 miles, but I always have to pee. And I get really bored.

 

[BrickGirl]

I'm Just wanting to up my endurance for one specific event, I keep getting winded after a while, I know the best way to build your endurance is to do the specific thing you are wanting to have endurance for, but It's kinda hard in this situation. I would tell you all what it is, but I surely don't want to offend anybody I just need more endurance, hope the jumproping intervals helps out

 

[wilson6]

While HIIT will improve VO2, it is very different from long slow distance metabolically.

W6

 

[spatts]

You want to elaborate on that Wilson? Sounds like a an intro to a decent lesson.

 

[bignate73]

While HIIT will improve VO2, it is very different from long slow distance metabolically.

W6

hiit should increas EPOC (afterburn) much more than the temporary effect of long cardio.

 

[spatts]

That's what I'm thinking nate. Kinda why I wanted Wilson 6 to elaborate.

 

[rez]

are those your abs brickgirl??

 

[Puddles]

For the skipping challenged.

 

[msboss]

jumping rope

I think it depends on your starting point. If you've had time off from cardio for say 3 months I'd say stick with the 10 minutes at a moderate pace ( not out of breath). Although 10 minutes jumping rope is very challenging. Then as you feel your lungs and heart adapting I would do some intervals at a slighty higher intensity level. It's all good and it's good to mix it up.