Can you lose bodyfat while taking Deca/Test together

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did anyone frontload with orals on this type cycle??

I did a test E and deca cycle about 14 months ago for a cut.

I did
1-10 Test E 500mg
1-9 Deca 300mg
.25 Arimidex ED

I went from 245 17% to 242 11%. Ate about 3000 cal a day....once a week I would do a 3500+ cal day.

 

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I am trying to get strong and less waist. I wonder if the test is enough to counteract the deca dick effects that I hear of.

The simple answer is yes. I'm doing it now and I really have to watch my calories and fluids or I lean down too much. Any bloat I'm picking up is around the joints and I welcome the pain relief.

The trick is what kind of calories. Get the fast, simple sugars out, up the meats and veggies and you drop fat and water. The aas will stoke the fire.

You don't have to beat yourself up with hours of cardio either. Just 15 minutes on the bike to warm yourself up ... then hit the weights.

Consider some HGH too. Even a small amount acts as a catalyst for the aas, especially if you dump the breads, pastas, fruits and other fast sugars. Eat like a wandering cave man. LOL

 

[ProtienFiend]

The good thing about steroids and cutting is that you can go very low on calories and keep lots of muscle. Arnold used to say that he only used steroids during cutting precontest. Of course we dont know what he REALLY did.

 

[Sassy69]

A good standard ratio for dieting is 40% protein / 30% carbs / 30% fats and your total cals depend on what you are trying to accomplish -- if you maintain - 10-12x your bodyweight, bulk/build 15x your bodyweight.

 

[lawnsaver]

Lawnsaver

What should I NOT DO during this cycle to interfere with bodyfat loss at the ratios of properties listed in the first thread? By that I mean, what ratio of carbs to protein is beneficial. But are you saying that I can go LOW on calories and high in PROTEIN and come out okay at the end of a 12 weeker if I get anywhere near my goal and will power.

Just eat smart. You should be able to find out how many cals you can eat based on your daily energy output. Based on that number dont eat over that amount. I would definately put the majority of those cals as protien, good fats (EFAs), and complex carbs.

 

[mr.nitrofish]

Not entirely true at all.

I can use any steroid in any cycle and it be a cutting or bulking based solely on my diet.

Yes you will see the final results after the water has left, but with the proper diet you can lose a ton of BF on a cycle.

yeas, I agree with that, but how is that any different than what I said?


the only reason people usually don't cut with deca is that they want to look lean right away, but with deca your going to hold some water, so the results are better once your off cycle.

 

[mikefear]

diet, diet, diet.

 

[Quadsweep]

It is 100% diet related. Acheiving a stage look is another thing due to aromatazation you would not use test or deca but your BF levels can be as low as with Fina or any other gear as long as a n anti-E is used.

Quadsweep

 

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diet, the key.

i am gonna try like hell not to let MYSELF down on this

It is 100% diet related. Acheiving a stage look is another thing due to aromatazation you would not use test or deca but your BF levels can be as low as with Fina or any other gear as long as a n anti-E is used.

Quadsweep

 

[mlong23]

You can get cut on any drug. The drugs only affect the muscles, not fat stores. Do the cardio and eat right, and that will have a bigger affect while using steroids because of the body using your energy to bulid muscle quicker.