Can You Build A Wide Back Without Lat Pulldowns???

[Texas Ranger]

Fellas, I'm going to buy a power rack next week and would like to get some opinions. The power rack with the lat attachment I REALLY want costs way too much. So, I'm thinking of going with this one. http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/92552.html These are the exercises I can do without any cables since I workout at home. Chins, Rack Chins(Doggcrapp style), One Arm Rows, T-Bar Rows(with Olympic Bar and close grip handle in corner), Barbell Rows, Deadlifts, and Pullovers(Nautilus). Have I missed anymore???

 

[Cuthbert]

We have the NYBB rack that is a step up from that one and it is a nice piece of equipment.

Why would you worry about lat pulldowns when you have all those other exercises?

 

[Tweakle]

pullups and chins are way better than pulldowns, you can do towel chins if you want to mimic a closegrip/parallel pulldown.

 

[GOHVYORGOHME]

Fellas, I'm going to buy a power rack next week and would like to get some opinions. The power rack with the lat attachment I REALLY want costs way too much. So, I'm thinking of going with this one. http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/92552.html These are the exercises I can do without any cables since I workout at home. Chins, Rack Chins(Doggcrapp style), One Arm Rows, T-Bar Rows(with Olympic Bar and close grip handle in corner), Barbell Rows, Deadlifts, and Pullovers(Nautilus). Have I missed anymore???

Another good Row to use as a burnout you can do with your bodyweight. Just place your olympic bar on the saftey racks and slide it to once side until it lies* against the frame and the safety bars. Then grab the bar and walk under it. Just place yourself so when you pullup, the middle of your chest hits the bar. It's a great rowing excerise and your can make it harder by lowering the safety bars. You can take it a step farther by getting a stability ball or chair and placing your feet on that to your hanging almost parallel with the floor!

 

[InTraining]

Lat pulldowns basically mimic a chin up or a pull up...they are the 2nd best vertical pulling movement I can think of...that's not to say I don't use them though after doing chins or pullups.....

With all the exercises you listed I really wouldn't worry about them....but they can come in handy sometimes...

 

[SAGAT]

id say hell yeah, imo all you need are;

deads
bent over rows
chins

 

[Dave949]

deads bent over rows chins

What he said.

Pump on .....

 

[strongsmartsexy]

id say hell yeah, imo all you need are;

deads
bent over rows
chins

Can I substitute one armed DB rows for the bent over rows?

 

[Dave949]

Can I substitute one armed DB rows for the bent over rows?

Absolutely !!!

Pump on .....

 

[Texas Ranger]

We have the NYBB rack that is a step up from that one and it is a nice piece of equipment.

Why would you worry about lat pulldowns when you have all those other exercises?

Cuthbert, which rack do you have? Could you post a link to it?

 

[the guy on the couch]

yep... i don't even do lat pulls. chins, deads, and bent over barbell rows

 

[Texas Ranger]

What do you think about the rack???

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Chinups/Pullups are open-chain (or closed?) movements, the opposite of lat pulldowns. The same general movement, but recruits more muscle fibers and motor units. Thus, more stimulation and better development overall.

 

[b fold the truth]

I haven't done a lat pull down in SOOOO long. Not sure I can remember when.

My little lats are proof.

B True

 

[Robert Jan]

You can build a huge body without ANY cable or machine work.

 

[Dave949]

Cables ??? Machines ??? What are those ?

Pump on .....

 

[Texas Ranger]

What's a good all around routine using the exercises above???

 

[Prime Rib2]

You can build a huge body without ANY cable or machine work.

Amen

 

[SAGAT]

What's a good all around routine using the exercises above???

this is what i do:

deads 5x5
Bent over rows 3x8 reps
chins 2 sets to failure

i alternate this per week with:

Bent over rows 5x5
one arm rows 3x8 reps
good mornings 3x15 reps

this has given me pretty good results

 

[Texas Ranger]

this is what i do:

deads 5x5
Bent over rows 3x8 reps
chins 2 sets to failure

i alternate this per week with:

Bent over rows 5x5
one arm rows 3x8 reps
good mornings 3x15 reps

this has given me pretty good results

Yeah, bro that's an understatement! Your back is lookin' WIIIIDE!!

 

[InTraining]

What's a good all around routine using the exercises above???

Barbell Rows or T-Bar Rows
3 sets of 6-8 reps

Chins 3xfailure until you can get 10 with BW

Nautilus Pullovers
I prefer high reps on these like 3 sets of 10 reps

Also for traps you could do shrugs....or maybe put deads first and put a cable row in there...simply because doing barbell rows or t bar rows after deads can be risky to the lower back....

 

[SAGAT]

Yeah, bro that's an understatement! Your back is lookin' WIIIIDE!!

thanks bro, hope it'll work for you as well!

 

[Scaggs]

Really you MIGHT be able to build nice lats without them. Some people may need that pulldown in conjuction with other movements to really stimulate the lats to grow. Try one thing and move onto another untill they start growing. Its all about figuring out your body.

Scaggs

 

[JKurz1]

Really you MIGHT be able to build nice lats without them. Some people may need that pulldown in conjuction with other movements to really stimulate the lats to grow. Try one thing and move onto another untill they start growing. Its all about figuring out your body.

Scaggs

What does you back routine look like bro?

 

[Scaggs]

What does you back routine look like bro?

Its split up.

A routine

Deadlifts
chins -> no rest right into lat pulldowns after each set
T-bar rows
high pulls

B Routine Alternated weekly
Rack Deadlifts
Chins - > no rest right into stiff armed pulldowns
Seated rows
Shrugs.

On my other days I have stiff legged d-lifts on there as well. this is only this routine now. i change it up a lot to keep things exciting and keep my body surprised. But the main core movements always stay. Rack Deads, Deads, Stiffies, and chins.

Scaggs

Scaggs