Can using nolva actually cause Gyno??

[Zuperman]

My friend never does PCT in his life, So I taught him about it, and now he is pissed cause he is developing gyno thinking from nolva, since he never used it before and never got it, It was official nolva too.

 

[xrsist]

what was his cycle bro? what other compounds and at what dose did he run for p c t?

 

[Mavafanculo]

there was ONE single off-point study that made an incidental mention of progesterone receptor upregulation with nolva use, and anecdotal reports of nolva+tren increasing possibility of P gyno . no studies, but word of mouth.

are you using tren or deca?

 

[Zuperman]

there was ONE single off-point study that made an incidental mention of progesterone receptor upregulation with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - use, and anecdotal reports of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - +trenbolone increasing possibility of P gynecomastia . no studies, but word of mouth.

are you using trenbolone or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ?

No, I'm natural.

 

[Zuperman]

what was his cycle bro? what other compounds and at what dose did he run for p c t?

I'll ask him exact cycle and doses tommorow bro, I know he was on Tren ace and test and viagra...dont ask me why...and winny,,,I'll post doses tommorow after i ask him..
He never did PCT before. But I suggested clomid and nolva and HCG

 

[ALIN]

first hand ive never experineced it from NOLVA

 

[thezan]

there was ONE single off-point study that made an incidental mention of progesterone receptor upregulation with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - use, and anecdotal reports of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - +trenbolone increasing possibility of P gynecomastia . no studies, but word of mouth.

are you using trenbolone or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ?

Bingo, Nolva should not be taken with any 19-nor gear....

 

[Zuperman]

Bingo, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - should not be taken with any 19-nor gear....

fucken A! so it's my fault? shit I tried to help him by teaching him PCT

bromo, and caseber for the deca/tren........but doen't he still need nolva since he is using test?

 

[xrsist]

I'll ask him exact cycle and doses tommorow bro, I know he was on trenbolone ace and test and viagra...dont ask me why...and Winstrol - stanozolol,,,I'll post doses tommorow after i ask him..
He never did PCT - post cycle therapy - before. But I suggested clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin -

bang.. there it is.. no novladex when using nandrolones or trenbolones..

 

[Zuperman]

Bingo, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - should not be taken with any 19-nor gear....

fucken A! so it's my fault? shit I tried to help him by teaching him PCT - post cycle therapy -

bromo, and caseber for the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /trenbolone........but doen't he still need Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - since he is using test?

 

[Zuperman]

Thanx guys, Any suggestions now? bromo, and caseber

 

[xrsist]

no. nolvedex is shit bro, use an AI while on cycle..

 

[Zuperman]

no. nolvedex is shit bro, use an aromatase inhibitor while on cycle..

thought they didnt work on tren/deca, since they don't aromitize into estrogen?

 

[xrsist]

AI for the test, dostinex for decca and tren. always have letro on hand regardless of what you run

 

[thezan]

The gyno your friend has is prog. related; therefore many AI's wont help; however, Letro has had success in this case. Id try starting at a dose of .5mg a day, ramping it up to 2.5mg a day (0.5 ed ramp) and stay at that dose untill gyno is gone. When your buddy notices it disappear, keep him at 2.5mg for a week, then taper back down from 2.5 to 0.5 (ramping down 0.5 ed).

 

[Mavafanculo]

No, I'm natural.

way to be...

 

[Zuperman]

 

[jumpmaster82]

good to know

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nollva = horrible useless drug.

 

[thezan]

Nollva = horrible useless drug.

ummm, ive used it numerous times during and after cycles and its helped with blocking gyno and also bringing my levels back to normal (bloodwork done). If you are reffering to it being a bad choice of drug while using it during a 19 nor cycle, then i agree, but it sounds like thats not the case......Nolva is a great drug in many cases.

 

[get456]

ummm, ive used it numerous times during and after cycles and its helped with blocking gyno and also bringing my levels back to normal (bloodwork done). If you are reffering to it being a bad choice of drug while using it during a 19 nor cycle, then i agree, but it sounds like thats not the case......Nolva is a great drug in many cases.

test cycle with no nolva= swollen nips and a lump

test cycle with nolva = no swollen nips no lumps


VERY useless obviously