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Can I get some HONEST input...

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Not truly knowing what the whole cause of the ordeal was I still believe that all should get a secong chance to prove themsleves worthy of respect!
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Come one JB...the 50+ responses on musclezine werent "honest" enough for ya? Dude I seriously have nothing against you but you need to grow up and drop this whole problem.
 
why do you keep doing this to yourself JB? is it for atention? everyone keeps giving you the same responce but yet you keep asking? what is your deal?
 
I've sat around for several days now watching this "internet drama" and have yet to voice my opinion. I'll voice it now and you all can flame away.

In my opinion, Johnboy is a honest individual who speaks the truth. He was a very active participant in several boards and was always helpful to everyone. He appears to be well educated both in general and in anabolics. He voiced his concerns about problems with this board several times here and the administration ignored his requests over and over. The administration and most of the mods apeared as if they did not even exist. When musclezine started out, I immediately went and signed up for an account. The main reason I went there was due to the deterioration of this board and because Bouncer and Jonhboy were both mods. They are (or were) online constantly and were quick to answer any questions and to provide excellent advice. A lot of you don't like johnboy and that is fine but the fact of the matter is that he always spoke the truth.

As for the GV thread... Even though I don't show being registered on EF very long, I have been here for close to a year. Scammers names, once approved by the mods, are posted and usually stuck for several days. SonnyBlack stayed at the top for about a week as did many others. Johnboy posted GV as a scammer and a mod here stuck it. Why? because it was important. Then several hours later, another mod unstuck it. All of a sudden it lost its importance.... or did it? My opinion is that whoever unstuck it did it because they didn't like the author. Johnboy spoke up for what was right and what did he get.... he got stripped of his mod privileges at MZ and got stabbed in the back.

Some of you call him childish for the way he approached the problem but can you aswer this.... What was the correct way? If he would have asked nicely who unstuck or why the thread was unstuck he would have been ignored just as he was several times before.

Call him wrong... call me wrong.... whatever.... the fact is that a good, knowledgable person is no longer the same and this board as well as musclezine is now missing one best members/mods that they once had.
 
The more times you post your ramblings here and on musclezine JB, the more I am truly confident that we at musclezine are better without you.

Good luck though JB.

Biggie
 
Focker said:
and got stabbed in the back.

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Ok, I'll take some time out to address this then. Please elaborate how JB got stabbed in the back. Could it be that you are just saying that because he says it? Nobody just took his mod powers away form him and didnt tell him. I told him flat out that his attitude and behavour here were a terrible reflection on the board and musclezine does not want that associated with the site. Cut and dry.
 
I mine as well address a couple other things. When I told JB he was no longer needed as a mod at musclezine, he told me a warning should have been in order. Why would a warning be in order? He couldnt see that he was acting like a 12 year old kid? Is he not 28 years old? Your telling me someone that is supposed to be mature enough to moderate a bb'ing site needs to be warned about acting like a child?

Also, JB has clearly stated here and at musclezine that musclezine is a bullshit site and this and that, well then why does he come on here crying and asking for input, opinions and what not? If we are such a terrible site, then he should be happy that his stellar reputation is no longer part of it.
 
SOLID said:
cut this childish shit out bro...wtf? This is an anabolics board not a fucking soap opera.
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This whole thing has been so drawn out. Let it go and move on. This is only a dicussion board not a matter of life and death.
 
BiggieSwolls said:
The more times you post your ramblings here and on musclezine JB, the more I am truly confident that we at musclezine are better without you.

Good luck though JB.

Biggie
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BiggieSwoles, please don't take offense to my debate. I don't know you personally and although I don't agree with your decision to de-mod jb I must stand up for him. I will give you credit Biggie in that you do participate in the board you administer. You are obviously not just in it to make money and are rather in it for the good of others. I have seen recently almost a hatred that you have developed toward jb who himself was active on the boards for the good of others. He is obviously upset and you keep pounding him with justification as to why him being de-modded was the correct decision. Its obvious that he's not going to get this privilege back (at least not on musclezine) but rather than looking at the little negative side of jb that was seen recently, why don't people see the good side. He is not a bad person and I'm sick of people flaming him for speaking the truth. Angin don't take this personally. I participate on your board and don't want any hard feelings.
 
BiggieSwolls said:

Also, JB has clearly stated here and at musclezine that musclezine is a bullshit site and this and that, well then why does he come on here crying and asking for input, opinions and what not? If we are such a terrible site, then he should be happy that his stellar reputation is no longer part of it.
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Biggie,
You and I both know that this was done out of pure anger. That was not the true johnboy. It is obvious that jb cares a great deal about MZ or else he wouldn't be upset. Being a mod meant a lot to jb... it is obvious.
 
Focker said:


BiggieSwoles, please don't take offense to my debate. I don't know you personally and although I don't agree with your decision to de-mod jb I must stand up for him. I will give you credit Biggie in that you do participate in the board you administer. You are obviously not just in it to make money and are rather in it for the good of others. I have seen recently almost a hatred that you have developed toward jb who himself was active on the boards for the good of others. He is obviously upset and you keep pounding him with justification as to why him being de-modded was the correct decision. Its obvious that he's not going to get this privilege back (at least not on musclezine) but rather than looking at the little negative side of jb that was seen recently, why don't people see the good side. He is not a bad person and I'm sick of people flaming him for speaking the truth. Angin don't take this personally. I participate on your board and don't want any hard feelings.
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Actually I have no hatred for JB. On the other hand I do have a hatred for uncalled for internet drama. The simple fact is he was de-modded and he was told this as personally as possible. Of course I am going to reply to posts where JB either indirectly or directly bashes the site which he has done now on a couple of occasions. The reason why JB's negatives are being brought to the forefront is because he basically keeps asking why he was de-modded. I have nothing against him. He can keep bashing my site and calling me a bitch, thats fine with me, it just justifies our decision to de-mod him even more.
 
Focker said:



Biggie,
You and I both know that this was done out of pure anger. That was not the true johnboy. It is obvious that jb cares a great deal about MZ or else he wouldn't be upset. Being a mod meant a lot to jb... it is obvious.
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Exactly. His anger and attitude are what got HIM into this situation. Obviously he cant control himself and what he says when he gets angry. Was I supposed to wait until he blew up on musclezine and made posts out of haste like he has done here on Elite?
 
Focker said:




I'll end it at that. I do not want you to have a hatred toward me.
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Again, I have no problem debating an issue. I've got some time now, so I mine as well address this JB situation to its fullest.
 
Focker i to once loved JB. im not gay or anything, you know what i mean. me and johnboy got along great as anyone will tell you, but i have not seen the good side of johnboy for along time now. i always stood up for him and then he stabs me in the back with his comments towards me. well JB, i don't know if you care or not but you just lost a friend that always backed you.
 
Focker, I think you are a good guy for voicing your opinion in a calm and mature fashion.

However, you asked what would have been the "right way" for JB to address his concerns to the board. I can tell you one thing, the "fuck you pussy cocksmokers, this board is a piece of shit, the mods are fags and pussies" approach he took was definately the wrong one.

The GV thread stayed stuck for 2 days and had been viewed hundreds of times. How long does he expect one of his threads to be stuck? Even if it is not stuck, he can always get it back to the top with a simple bump every 24 hours.
 
Well I just caught up on the thread over at MZ and thats not where I got the "back stabbing" idea from. I was actually referring to the de-modding without warning a sort of "back stab." No need to explain further though as it has already been discussed enough.
 

Also, JB has clearly stated here and at musclezine that musclezine is a bullshit site and this and that, well then why does he come on here crying and asking for input, opinions and what not? [/B]
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Bro you told me point blank in a message that the main reason was because vets and mods on elite were pissed at my remarks and it was making your board look bad. So I came over here not to say "poor me" but to see how it really was. If 70 reply to this thread and tell you I'm an asshole then you probably did the right thing. I guess there is a fine line between an asshole and a 2 faced person that doesn't speak his mind and follow his heart. I stick up for what I believe in and I stick up for people I believe in; I always have and I always will. If that's why you banned me then it was for a DAMN good cause. Anybody that knows me knows I'm a standup "ONE FACED", tell it like it is person. I don't care if its george spellwin, Biggie swolls or fucking king of the world.....I voice my opinion and I kiss no ass.

That's all I have to contribute to this string; call it drama, call it childish, soap opera...whatever...I came here to have it told to me by the people who you said wanted me banned. Read back through the thread biggie...."just go apologize to the people you pissed off at elite and it will be cool." Well bro you see no apology here because I spoke my mind and my heart and I'm not sorry for that.....
 
I cant believe this is still going on. The situation was cut and dry, JB acted in a way that was not becoming of a mod on any board, and as a result, his mod'ship was taken away. This was all explained to him as well as the board members when it happened, that should have been the end. JB had nothing but positive things to say about the board when he was a mod, but now all he does is trash it. What does being a mod have to do with a board being good or not. I love this board as well as many others that I am not a mod on.
I've seen mods get booted from thier positions on all kinds of boards, including this one, but not once have I seen this sort of reaction.... JB, at this point all you are doing is adding even more justification to the decision that was made, you really need to let it go
 
IPSON said:


Bro you told me point blank in a message that the main reason was because vets and mods on elite were pissed at my remarks and it was making your board look bad. So I came over here not to say "poor me" but to see how it really was. If 70 reply to this thread and tell you I'm an asshole then you probably did the right thing. I guess there is a fine line between an asshole and a 2 faced person that doesn't speak his mind and follow his heart. I stick up for what I believe in and I stick up for people I believe in; I always have and I always will. If that's why you banned me then it was for a DAMN good cause. Anybody that knows me knows I'm a standup "ONE FACED", tell it like it is person. I don't care if its george spellwin, Biggie swolls or fucking king of the world.....I voice my opinion and I kiss no ass.

That's all I have to contribute to this string; call it drama, call it childish, soap opera...whatever...I came here to have it told to me by the people who you said wanted me banned. Read back through the thread biggie...."just go apologize to the people you pissed off at elite and it will be cool." Well bro you see no apology here because I spoke my mind and my heart and I'm not sorry for that.....
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You actually need the people who complained about you to come on here and tell you? Your gonna tell me you didnt realize your attitude was disrespectful? Many people even told you on a couple threads that you were out of line. Im sure most just dont want to come on this thread and tell you who they were because quite frankly, they probably just dont want to be part of this internet soap opera.

Btw, no one banned you. There was no need to ban you, but there was a need to disassociate you with the mods and admins. I also never said all you have to do is apologize and it will be cool. My decision is made and it was for a good reason, I will not change it nor do I feel I should.
 
IPSON said:

Anybody that knows me knows I'm a standup "ONE FACED", tell it like it is person.
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how many times are you going to say the same thing? you say this so much im starting to think you are trying to prove yourself. if you are so "tell it like it is", then why did you delete your thread over at musclezine awhile ago. you remember, the one i called you on, you said that i was making you look bad in front of the other mods.
 
THE BOUNCER said:
how many times are you going to say the same thing? you say this so much im starting to think you are trying to prove yourself. if you are so "tell it like it is", then why did you delete your thread over at musclezine awhile ago. you remember, the one i called you on, you said that i was making you look bad in front of the other mods.
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I'm done bro, I said my piece I just wanted input. Thank you for yours.
 
THE BOUNCER said:
that's great but are you done for today or are you going to start up again tommorow?
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ok this time I'm really done :D PM me bro, I just want to get some input....it wasn't a thread that I started to flame your board....Lets posts in peace and let water under the bridge keep flowing.. cool? :)
 
IPSON said:


ok this time I'm really done :D PM me bro, I just want to get some input....it wasn't a thread that I started to flame your board....Lets posts in peace and let water under the bridge keep flowing.. cool? :)
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i don't understand you man. on one hand you are attacking me, big, and Tx. on the other hand, with this post it seems as if the real JB is back. JB you have to know that i always had your back. that's why i was kinda hurt when you openly attacked me on the board. anyways, if you say it's over than i will take your word one last time. now get back to being the JB that we all know and love.:) oh, and see if you can get back your johnboy name. i hate ipson, it's like your evil twin or something.
 
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