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Caloric content of alcohol

chris302001

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So I've had some drinks tonight and it;s got me thinking.......caloric content of ETOH is something like 7 right??? But ETOH is broken downinto acetaldyhde and then into acetate.....is the 7 kilocalas from those reactionass or from further processing of the acetate? Tatyana?
 
9 Calories per Gram
Estrogenic
Catabolic
Inhibits Protein Synthesis for 3-4 days after your night out YAY
 
Energy is stored in the bonds, so all those carbons in alcohol the energy would be released as they are broken down.

Some alcohol diffuses directly out of the stomach, it also takes priority over digesting anything else in your liver.

What you said makes sense, but now I am going to have to check. :)

You could google the metabolism of alcohol.
 
OMEGA said:
9 Calories per Gram
Estrogenic
Catabolic
Inhibits Protein Synthesis for 3-4 days after your night out YAY

okay so its 9 cals per gram, but I was just wondering if it was actually from the alcohol or wait..........god Im dumb, you piss the acetate out............



Neigh mind! Thanks 'mega!, Thanks Tat!
 
calveless wonder said:
where is the study that says taht

heres an abstract:

Alcohol Impairs Protein Synthesis and Degradation in Cultured Skeletal Muscle Cells
Ly Q. Hong-Brown 1 , Robert A. Frost 1 Charles H. Lang 1
1 Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiology, Pennsylvania State College of Medicine, Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Correspondence to Ly Q. Hong-Brown, PhD, Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiology (H166), Pennsylvania State College of Medicine, Hershey, PA 17033; Fax: 717-531-7667; E-mail: [email protected]
Supported by Grant AA11290 from NIAAA.

Copyright 2001 The Research Society on Alcoholism
KEYWORDS
Alcohol • Protein Synthesis • Proteolysis • IGF-I/Insulin Hybrid Receptors
ABSTRACT
Background: Acute and chronic alcohol intoxication decreases skeletal muscle protein synthesis under in vivo conditions. We investigated whether ethanol (EtOH) and its major metabolites, acetaldehyde and acetate, can directly modulate protein balance under in vitro conditions.

Methods: Human myocytes were incubated with different doses of EtOH for varying periods of time (i.e., 4–72 hr). Alternatively, cells were incubated with acetaldehyde, acetate, insulin, insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I), or with a combination of EtOH plus insulin or IGF-I. Rates of protein synthesis or degradation were determined by 35S-methionine/cysteine incorporation into or release from cellular protein.

Results: A significant, 15% to 20%, decrease in basal protein synthesis was observed after 24 hr, but not at earlier time points, in response to 80 mM EtOH. Incubation of myocytes for 72 hr decreased synthesis in cells incubated with EtOH ranging between 60 and 120 mM. The ability of IGF-I or insulin to stimulate protein synthesis was impaired by 30% and 60%, respectively, in cells incubated with 80 mM EtOH for 72 hr. Exposure of cells to 200 μM acetaldehyde or 5 mM Na-acetate also decreased basal protein synthesis. In contrast, neither EtOH, acetaldehyde, nor acetate altered the basal rate of protein degradation. However, EtOH completely impaired the ability of insulin and IGF-I to inhibit proteolysis. Finally, EtOH did not impair IGF-I receptor autophosphorylation, but inhibited the ability of insulin to phosphorylate its own receptor. EtOH also did not alter the number of insulin or IGF-I receptors or the formation of insulin/IGF-I hybrid receptors.

Conclusions: We have demonstrated that EtOH can directly inhibit muscle protein synthesis under in vitro conditions. Neither EtOH nor its metabolites altered basal protein degradation, although EtOH did compromise the ability of both insulin and IGF-I to slow proteolysis. This impairment seems to be mediated by different defects in signal transduction.
 
I wonder what the effective dose of EtOH has to be to make the protein inhibition kick-in.
 
timtim said:
heres an abstract:

Alcohol Impairs Protein Synthesis and Degradation in Cultured Skeletal Muscle Cells
Ly Q. Hong-Brown 1 , Robert A. Frost 1 Charles H. Lang 1
1 Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiology, Pennsylvania State College of Medicine, Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Correspondence to Ly Q. Hong-Brown, PhD, Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiology (H166), Pennsylvania State College of Medicine, Hershey, PA 17033; Fax: 717-531-7667; E-mail: [email protected]
Supported by Grant AA11290 from NIAAA.

Copyright 2001 The Research Society on Alcoholism
KEYWORDS
Alcohol • Protein Synthesis • Proteolysis • IGF-I/Insulin Hybrid Receptors
ABSTRACT
Background: Acute and chronic alcohol intoxication decreases skeletal muscle protein synthesis under in vivo conditions. We investigated whether ethanol (EtOH) and its major metabolites, acetaldehyde and acetate, can directly modulate protein balance under in vitro conditions.

Methods: Human myocytes were incubated with different doses of EtOH for varying periods of time (i.e., 4–72 hr). Alternatively, cells were incubated with acetaldehyde, acetate, insulin, insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I), or with a combination of EtOH plus insulin or IGF-I. Rates of protein synthesis or degradation were determined by 35S-methionine/cysteine incorporation into or release from cellular protein.

Results: A significant, 15% to 20%, decrease in basal protein synthesis was observed after 24 hr, but not at earlier time points, in response to 80 mM EtOH. Incubation of myocytes for 72 hr decreased synthesis in cells incubated with EtOH ranging between 60 and 120 mM. The ability of IGF-I or insulin to stimulate protein synthesis was impaired by 30% and 60%, respectively, in cells incubated with 80 mM EtOH for 72 hr. Exposure of cells to 200 μM acetaldehyde or 5 mM Na-acetate also decreased basal protein synthesis. In contrast, neither EtOH, acetaldehyde, nor acetate altered the basal rate of protein degradation. However, EtOH completely impaired the ability of insulin and IGF-I to inhibit proteolysis. Finally, EtOH did not impair IGF-I receptor autophosphorylation, but inhibited the ability of insulin to phosphorylate its own receptor. EtOH also did not alter the number of insulin or IGF-I receptors or the formation of insulin/IGF-I hybrid receptors.

Conclusions: We have demonstrated that EtOH can directly inhibit muscle protein synthesis under in vitro conditions. Neither EtOH nor its metabolites altered basal protein degradation, although EtOH did compromise the ability of both insulin and IGF-I to slow proteolysis. This impairment seems to be mediated by different defects in signal transduction.

yeah, but the study states that these myocytes were incubated with alcohol for up to 72 hours. that would mean someone would have to have alcohol present in their body for that long. more or less a 2-3 day drinking binge nonstop

if it wasnt present in the 1st 24 hours, that means most people dont even really see the effects of alcohol on protein synthesis. alcohol is metabolized at 1 drink per 1 hour. That would be news to me.

i assumed it was onyl when you were intoxicated that protein synthesis was impacted, but at a somewhat significant rate.
 
calveless wonder said:
yeah, but the study states that these myocytes were incubated with alcohol for up to 72 hours. that would mean someone would have to have alcohol present in their body for that long. more or less a 2-3 day drinking binge nonstop

if it wasnt present in the 1st 24 hours, that means most people dont even really see the effects of alcohol on protein synthesis. alcohol is metabolized at 1 drink per 1 hour. That would be news to me.

i assumed it was onyl when you were intoxicated that protein synthesis was impacted, but at a somewhat significant rate.

That's what I was thinking too. We really need in-vivo dose and exposure times to assess how much inhibition is really taking place.

I'm definitely interested though, because I do so like my 1-2 glasses of red wine in the evenings. If that was enough to inhibit protein synthesis tho, I'd drop 'em fast.
 
calveless wonder said:
yeah, but the study states that these myocytes were incubated with alcohol for up to 72 hours. that would mean someone would have to have alcohol present in their body for that long. more or less a 2-3 day drinking binge nonstop

if it wasnt present in the 1st 24 hours, that means most people dont even really see the effects of alcohol on protein synthesis. alcohol is metabolized at 1 drink per 1 hour. That would be news to me.

i assumed it was onyl when you were intoxicated that protein synthesis was impacted, but at a somewhat significant rate.


LOL, and I think there's only a few peeps on EF that are capable of "incubating" their myocytes in a pool of ETOH....
 
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