Calling out needtogetaas and anyone else..

[adeffingventuretime]

First I'll introduce myself, you cancall me B, and I've been lurking for quite some time.

I am 5'9 220 pounds. I've been competitively lifting since 14 and been a three sport standout out from the same time until my college career was ended.

Two years ago I was the reserve running back as well as a reserve corner for a highly touted NCAA division 1-AA program.

I've done a lot of stupid oral cycles from 14-19 I'm now 22 with tits like I weigh 300 pounds..
Literally they are like a b cup. I'm talking full on total breasts.

I used to have to have three to eight orgasms a day my libido was so high, I went to a doctor on my 21st because I was feeling old, he told me my serum test levels were about 1/4 of what it should be, but my insurance wouldn't cover anything so I haven't been back since.


Anyways, I've begun taking letrozole at 2.5 mg per day. I also take 2400 mg of fish oil, 4000 iu of d3 as well as 4500 mg of glucosamine and 3600 mg of chondroitin. It's day 17 of this and I've had little to no joint pain, morning wood for the first time in a long time, and a ton of people ask if I'm getting back into shape for any reason, myself, I feel different but don't look different. I've been feeling aggression and I'm not sure if it's confidence or quiet cockiness, but I feel like I could do anything..

Things I've noticed in training: I'm leaner, faster, stronger, I think more clearly, just everything is groovy. I've been running my ass off with next to no joint pain like everyone else describes, and I mean 2500 yards worth of wind sprints, and alpine pass workouts on the treadmills at the gym. I'm just not seeing much of the sides from my letro but I am seeing the benefits, especially significantly less bloat.

Is this all placebo, somewhat? Why no joint pain? No real loss of libido what does this mean? I haven't had a chance to do any blood work, but will if necessary.

My continuation of this plan is to add in hcgenerate, dostinex/cabergoline , and then forma when all gyno has subsided. Is this correct and will it work? I was thinking of adding cialis, but my libido is still fairly high and I even get morning wood now. I don't feel the need for three to eight a day but I still have sex on the daily so not too concerned at the moment, no ED to report.

I'm sorry if this post isnt clear as to what's going on or seems jumbled I had to do it from my phone since I have no computer. Any and all positive/progressive input is greatly appreciated. And on a side note, I was a heavy cannabis user, and I know it doesn't help. I used to probably use a quarter ounce a day I probably smoke a gram or two a day now, and haven't at all in a few days actually.

 

[muscleaddiction]

First off a bit of advice...don't start a thread calling out needtogetaas, didn't look good. Secondly, why don't you PM needto and ask him for help...he will gladly put you on his gyno removal program, and will work with you. Stay on the Letro for now, and get in contact with needto...sounds like you have everything you need, so that is what I would do.

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[adeffingventuretime]

Sorry. Not trying to pick at you, but I was under the impression we were supposed to call him out in threads.. Actually I'm pretty sure it says so in his signature somewhere. I will however PM him. Thanks for your reply.

 

[needtogetaas]

The think the confusion was with the words "calling out needtogetaas". On many forums this means " I want to have an argument with you". But in reading through your thread we can all see you meant no harm by the title of the thread. Just remember for next time something more like " asking for Needto's help" are anything along these lines would have been better. Sorry for the confusion though. All the mods here and almost all the members look out for each other and my self... Thank you for the thread.......

Ok the letro is lowering estrogen and maybe your estrogen was pretty high for a wile. Lowering estrogen will cause HPTA to create Supraphysiological Overcompensation in the way of negative feed back. Estrogen is predominantly made from the aromatization of endogenous androgens into estrogens. This is the responsibility of "aromatase" that is present pretty much everywhere in the body as well as the hypothalamus. To much estrogen will cause the body to stop producing Testosterone and likewise dropping estrogen can also cause a rise in Testosterone and androgens..

So In adding the letro in you have tricked your body into believing it now needs to create more testosterone. You are not feeling any of the side effects of letro I suspect because its too soon to be feeling any of them. ALso with respect to joint pain you have enough supporting supplements to prevent this at least for now anyway and maybe throughout but this would remain to be seen. However I do feel that you should switch over to a Ai that is much better suited to long term use like a suicidal aromatase inhibitor... - Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog . If you stay on Letro sooner or later you are going to feel the repercussions my friend . The negative side effects will come and they will not be pretty. Crushing estrogen to low for to long can and will cause a multitude of problems especially when letro crushes both E-1 and E-2 equally.


Aromasin.
has a half life of about 23-27 hours or roughly one day, and a common dosage is 25mg EOD. A more suitable dosage would be 6.25 mg ED or 12.5mg EOD. Aromasin is a definitive Suicide Inhibitor, meaning it permanently and irreversibly binds to enzymes looking to convert androgens to aromatase. This sounds great on paper, like you would only need a few doses.... but the reality is that oru bodies are constantly upregulating the supply of available enzymes as others die. So, continued use througout cycle is needed. This is the one drug IMO that if you can find the sweet spot, you are in the money! 12.5mg EOD will be enough for most to keep a steady level going, or you can use 6.25 mg ED to keep levels steady because of the shorter half life (although either method will produce very similar levels in most). Aromasin also binds to SHBG, lowering the available amount to bind with free test, thus increasing free test levels...


I would switch over to Hcgenerate 3 caps am and 2 caps pm plus ether aromasine 12.5mg every other day or Forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm. I would run this for about 4-6 weeks my friend. And don't stay on letro to long IMO....