Calling all "big dogs"

[informed09]

Alright guys I finished a winny cycle with a very short period of prop/fina(2weeks worth) bout 7weeks ago and still havent recovered. I am experiencing low sex drive, weak erections(can get them but have no staying power), no morning wood(which sucks ass by the way), and an over all blue feeling. For pct I did about 8500iu of hcg which I am currently done with, clomid,and nolva. My testes are still not back to normal size. A well respected bro on elite told me to get some more hcg and run it 1000iu every 3rd day( thanks for your help bro). My issue is that i read some info saying that hcg will continue to shut you down and other info that says it doesnt. I mean dont I need to have my testes back at full size before they will start to produce test again? Just looking for more opinions and reasurance on what I should do. Thanks for the help and K to everyone that does help.

 

[Indy]

Alright guys I finished a winny cycle with a very short period of prop/fina(2weeks worth) bout 7weeks ago and still havent recovered. I am experiencing low sex drive, weak erections(can get them but have no staying power), no morning wood(which sucks ass by the way), and an over all blue feeling. For pct I did about 8500iu of hcg which I am currently done with, clomid,and nolva. My testes are still not back to normal size. A well respected bro on elite told me to get some more hcg and run it 1000iu every 3rd day( thanks for your help bro). My issue is that i read some info saying that hcg will continue to shut you down and other info that says it doesnt. I mean dont I need to have my testes back at full size before they will start to produce test again? Just looking for more opinions and reasurance on what I should do. Thanks for the help and K to everyone that does help.

Use the HCG, sounds like you are in need of it, it will NOT shut you down, but using long term will cause other issues very relative to shuting you down, dont think leydig cell desensization conversation is needed here, just run it as that bro told you, sounds like he knows.....

 

[krishna]

Keep taking nolva too!

 

[ALIN]

Alright guys I finished a winny cycle with a very short period of prop/fina(2weeks worth) bout 7weeks ago and still havent recovered. I am experiencing low sex drive, weak erections(can get them but have no staying power), no morning wood(which sucks ass by the way), and an over all blue feeling. For pct I did about 8500iu of hcg which I am currently done with, clomid,and nolva. My testes are still not back to normal size. A well respected bro on elite told me to get some more hcg and run it 1000iu every 3rd day( thanks for your help bro). My issue is that i read some info saying that hcg will continue to shut you down and other info that says it doesnt. I mean dont I need to have my testes back at full size before they will start to produce test again? Just looking for more opinions and reasurance on what I should do. Thanks for the help and K to everyone that does help.

i dont like running hcg during PCT for this reason, only during cycle.

 

[informed09]

Thanks for the replies. anyone else?

 

[informed09]

Should I be scared to cycle again once I do recover for fear of the same issues?

 

[Makavelli]

Should I be scared to cycle again once I do recover for fear of the same issues?

You may want to consider running HCG throughout your next cycle if you're running nandrolone based AAS.

 

[informed09]

You may want to consider running HCG throughout your next cycle if you're running nandrolone based AAS.

You bring up a good point Mak. Thanks

 

[Exosist]

can I ask your age?

 

[informed09]

can I ask your age?

24. Yea very young to be shut down like this

 

[Exosist]

24. Yea very young to be shut down like this

If I were you I would think about seeing a doctor if you dont recover soon. Your are right, your way too young to be shut down like this. Just my opinion.
Good luck and good health.

But since your not going to see one just yet.... at least:

NOLVA! NOLVA! NOLVA!

I remember a good friend had your problem, and what he did ws changed his HCG intake. He ran it at 500 IU a day for 10 days instead of.... He recovered well after this administration.

Since HCG aromatizes in the testes, you want to prevent gyno which can occur during HCG usage even if you are able to take large amounts of test without anti-e. Answer: NOLVA! NOLVA! NOLVA!

 

[informed09]

If I were you I would think about seeing a doctor if you dont recover soon. Your are right, your way too young to be shut down like this. Just my opinion.
Good luck and good health.

But since your not going to see one just yet.... at least:

NOLVA! NOLVA! NOLVA!

I remember a good friend had your problem, and what he did ws changed his HCG intake. He ran it at 500 IU a day for 10 days instead of.... He recovered well after this administration.

Since HCG aromatizes in the testes, you want to prevent gyno which can occur during HCG usage even if you are able to take large amounts of test without anti-e. Answer: NOLVA! NOLVA! NOLVA!

Thanks bro I am willing to try anything at this point. I will give it a go

 

[Exosist]

Thanks bro I am willing to try anything at this point. I will give it a go

My pleasure.

However, I think you should be more concerned as to why you shut down the way you did, and what you can do in the future to prevent such. I belive that maybe for your next cycle, should you chose to administer AAS again, you might want to run HCG at a small dose during.

I have read much about HCG, and dont belive that its a good idea as long term. But, do some research and you will find many safe ways to use HCG during your cycle. People are different and will respond differently to everything. Know your body.
Nosce te ipsum
(Know thyself)

 

[slat1]

I remember a good friend had your problem, and what he did ws changed his HCG intake. He ran it at 500 IU a day for 10 days instead of.... He recovered well after this administration.

That is exactly how I run it. I run it mid cycle for ten days at 500iu's a day. Also in the last week for ten days at 500iu's a day. I also run 20mgs of nolva with it so I do not desensitize my LH2.
I run clomid after the AAS esters clear at 300 day 1, 100 day 2 through 11, and 50 day 12 through 21 (unless its deca or tren.. then I go to day 28)

 

[Exosist]

That is exactly how I run it. I run it mid cycle for ten days at 500iu's a day. Also in the last week for ten days at 500iu's a day. I also run 20mgs of nolva with it so I do not desensitize my LH2.
I run clomid after the AAS esters clear at 300 day 1, 100 day 2 through 11, and 50 day 12 through 21 (unless its deca or tren.. then I go to day 28)

Do you feel like your best gains are made during this 10 day administration of HCG?

I find that during these 10 days mid cycle I make the best gains.

Exosist

 

[informed09]

Do you feel like your best gains are made during this 10 day administration of HCG?

I find that during these 10 days mid cycle I make the best gains.

Exosist

If I do recover and decide to cycle again, What gear should I use and stay away from? should I lean towards gear that doesnt shut you down so hard? Or would running hcg throughout my cycle help in that department?

 

[Exosist]

If I do recover and decide to cycle again, What gear should I use and stay away from? should I lean towards gear that doesnt shut you down so hard? Or would running hcg throughout my cycle help in that department?

I think you should spend more time researching then planning a cycle.

The last thing I want to do is undermind you however, before I even touched AAS I spend 3 solid years reading everything I could about it. Research is a better investment in the long term. This is your body after all, and you only have one.

For me or anyone else here to sit and type a list of what you should and should not use would hold no value.

Research! Research! Research!