Cabbassar ?

[iceman7230]

Just finishing up pct for my last cycle. My cycle was:

1-10 Test E 500mgs ew
1-10 Tren E 400mgs ew
1-10 Winny 75mgs ed
1-10 Deca 150mgs ew(for joints)
1-5 Arimadex .5mgs ed
6-10 Letro 2.5mgs ed(started getting gyno issues)
1-10 HCG 500ius ew

PCT:

11-14 Unleashed and Post Cycle
11-14 Letro 2.5mgs ed
11-14 Nolvadex 20mgs ed
11-14 Derma Sustain

I was wondering if cabbassar will help to take now. I think the gyno was caused by the tren and deca(never mix again). THe gyno is going away slowly. What would you guys suggest doing to get rid of the gyno?

 

[iceman7230]

Bump!

 

[OMEGA]

it cant really hurt for short bursts

Noticed some nice face chiseling / Libido properties when in normal mode

 

[iceman7230]

it cant really hurt for short bursts

Noticed some nice face chiseling / Libido properties when in normal mode

You think it will help with the gyno though?

 

[OMEGA]

used with An AI yes

 

[OMEGA]

1 mg CaberGoline EOD with Aromasin at 15 mgs EOD OFF cycle should do it over a 3-4 week period minus the sides

 

[iceman7230]

1 mg CaberGoline EOD with Aromasin at 15 mgs EOD OFF cycle should do it over a 3-4 week period minus the sides

Thanks Omega!

 

[OMEGA]

your welcome

 

[iceman7230]

I have been taking:

20mgs of nolvadex ed
1mg cabbassar eod(just started 4 days ago)
2.5mgs of letro ed

I am also taking unleashed and pct

My libido issue are good with the pct and unleashed

My hard lumps are almost gone I just have puffy nips, how do I get rid of them?

Is this a good combo for getting rid of gyno?

 

[gjohnson5]

Why were you not taking the .5mg e3d during the cycle?
Generally it's needed when taking both tren and deca in the same cycle

Just finishing up pct for my last cycle. My cycle was:

1-10 Test E 500mgs ew
1-10 Tren E 400mgs ew
1-10 Winny 75mgs ed
1-10 Deca 150mgs ew(for joints)
1-5 Arimadex .5mgs ed
6-10 Letro 2.5mgs ed(started getting gyno issues)
1-10 HCG 500ius ew

PCT:

11-14 Unleashed and Post Cycle
11-14 Letro 2.5mgs ed
11-14 Nolvadex 20mgs ed
11-14 Derma Sustain

I was wondering if cabbassar will help to take now. I think the gyno was caused by the tren and deca(never mix again). THe gyno is going away slowly. What would you guys suggest doing to get rid of the gyno?

 

[gjohnson5]

Yes , your gyno is prolactin induced due to not using dostinex / cabaser during the cycle

 

[perryscoon]

Yep, hard lumps are estrogen gyno(from test). Puffy nips are from prolactin gyno. So, you had a little of both.

I've never heard of anyone running Dostinex to remove gyno, only prevention. The letro might help though.

 

[gjohnson5]

No.
He was using arimidex and letro during the cycle. It's definitly prolactin gyno.

 

[muscleup]

The Letrozole and Cabaser combo will dry up just about any gyno....However without labwork it's hard to determine which "pathway" the gyno has come from. You can't assume anything.

[email protected] per day is an HUGE doseage{Especially is it's pharm grade Novartis}, You will more than likely suffer from low estrogen side effects in which could hinder your HPTA from reaching homeostasis.

For the most part I highly recommend people NOT use and AI during PCT. This practice was started on the boards and is soley based off a myth...Bro-knowledge if you will.

 

[gjohnson5]

Yes 2.5mg ED of Letro is why I was pretty sure his gyno is prolactin based. IMHO AI's are generally underdosed. In this case they were probably overdosed. The good thing about letro is that is should handle the estrogenic and progesterone elevations from the gear he was using. But still I think that letro dosage probably could have been 1mg daily and that may have been enough.

I Agree that the 2.5mg Letro during PCT will inhibit his HPTA, but since he was using a large dose of letro during the cycle , there is also a good chance of estrogen rebound if you just stops the AI's. In this case I think he should have dropped down to using arimidex at low dosage or say .25mg letro e3d or 2w(really low dosage) just to make sure estrogen does not rebound and then he have estrogen and prolactin issues.

 

[hyp1]

I have been taking:

20mgs of nolvadex ed
1mg cabbassar eod(just started 4 days ago)
2.5mgs of letro ed

I am also taking unleashed and pct

My libido issue are good with the pct and unleashed

My hard lumps are almost gone I just have puffy nips, how do I get rid of them?

Is this a good combo for getting rid of gyno?

I would definitely stay away from the nolvadex while on tren e,because nolvadex upregulates your progesterone receptors and can actually cause gyno.

while doing tren a I got a lump in my left nipple and took some dostinex and it immediately solved the problem within a couple of days.

best of luck to you bro

 

[iceman7230]

Why were you not taking the .5mg e3d during the cycle?
Generally it's needed when taking both tren and deca in the same cycle

I was taking .5mgs arimadex ed during and then switched to letro 2.5 mgs ed for gyno issues

 

[iceman7230]

I would definitely stay away from the nolvadex while on tren e,because nolvadex upregulates your progesterone receptors and can actually cause gyno.

while doing tren a I got a lump in my left nipple and took some dostinex and it immediately solved the problem within a couple of days.

best of luck to you bro

I wasn't using nolvadex during my cycle. I knoiw not to use it with tren or deca. Thanks though!

 

[iceman7230]

Yes 2.5mg ED of Letro is why I was pretty sure his gyno is prolactin based. IMHO AI's are generally underdosed. In this case they were probably overdosed. The good thing about letro is that is should handle the estrogenic and progesterone elevations from the gear he was using. But still I think that letro dosage probably could have been 1mg daily and that may have been enough.

I Agree that the 2.5mg Letro during PCT will inhibit his HPTA, but since he was using a large dose of letro during the cycle , there is also a good chance of estrogen rebound if you just stops the AI's. In this case I think he should have dropped down to using arimidex at low dosage or say .25mg letro e3d or 2w(really low dosage) just to make sure estrogen does not rebound and then he have estrogen and prolactin issues.

What would you do in my situation bro?

My cabbasser never came in the mail untill after my cycle(I will wait for it next time).

Should I keep running:

Letro 2.5mgs ed
Nolvadex 20mgs ed
Cabbasser 1mg eod

?

 

[access]

I think that maybe your in trouble here as long as you have run the Letro at that high a dose and not seen any improvement.

 

[iceman7230]

I think that maybe your in trouble here as long as you have run the Letro at that high a dose and not seen any improvement.

I have seen alot of improvement. THe hardness is almost gone. I just hope I can get rid of the puffiness.

 

[gjohnson5]

Don't start the cycle until you get what you need...
If cabaser was an issue in terms of availability bromocriptine will also work

 

[perryscoon]

Bro, oddly enough, my gyno flair ups have always gone away about a week AFTER running a bottle of letro at 2.5mg ED, not during.