Bye bye old gyno, thank u needto :D

[digitizedsoul]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

 

[the_alcatraz]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

I'm glad you got over your gyno issue. Needto is da man!

 

[swole]

good shit!

 

[thecomeback]

How old was your gyno?

 

[digitizedsoul]

How old was your gyno?

3+yrs

 

[thecomeback]

3+yrs

Wow, good for you buddy.

 

[eddymerckx]

needto is tha man---a nongreen one, though.

 

[trowsersnake98]

can somebody post the thread? this sound interesting.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

what cycle was it from , how was the protocol?

 

[digitizedsoul]

The gyno was from what I believe to have been a combination of things.

First I did a stupid M1T cycle (not knowing wtf I was doing back then). No PCT at all and I did random doses again because I Was ignorant.

After about 6 months, I did my first real sust250 / eq cycle with Dbol's first half and winny second half. Results were phenomenal, but afterwards (again no PCT) I started getting mild gyno which has hung around ever since (3+yrs)

 

[ALIN]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

refresh us on this gyno removal protocol,,,,how did you run the LETRO and NOLVA?

 

[needtogetaas]

refresh us on this gyno removal protocol,,,,how did you run the LETRO and NOLVA?

Its a trade mark bro. He can't tell you

 

[elcamello]

Its a trade mark bro. He can't tell you

Oh come on that sucks I have the same issue. This is really interesting cause I was told gyno does not go away if you keep it for so many year. Only surgery will remove it.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Heh talk to needto. It IS his recipe, which I didn't ask for I just kinda "found" and used

He will hook you up im sure

 

[needtogetaas]

Oh come on that sucks I have the same issue. This is really interesting cause I was told gyno does not go away if you keep it for so many year. Only surgery will remove it.

Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife has a nice set of tits, Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young. No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all. She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they are still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go. There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way. Now this does not always work and it dos not work for every one in the time frame they would like. For some it can take up to a year but IMO all gyno can be removed with out surgery

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

 

[digitizedsoul]

This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol

 

[biggernu]

Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol

lmao

 

[perryscoon]

Congratulations bro. But watch out, it can come back quick if you don't serm your cycles from now on. Don't even attempt another cycle without an AE or AI ever again.

I say this from personal letro-remideated gyno experience.

 

[needtogetaas]

Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol

Yes in fact there is natural products that will do this. Its not something I ever wanted to look into,but I know of them. I will look into it for you if you like.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Yes in fact there is natural products that will do this. Its not something I ever wanted to look into,but I know of them. I will look into it for you if you like.

Sure bro, its something i'd like to educate myself on simply for the ability of sharing that knowledge. Especially if this is something that could or would actually produce results for women who already look great, but just want a more balanced "womanly" physique.

 

[digitizedsoul]

Congratulations bro. But watch out, it can come back quick if you don't serm your cycles from now on. Don't even attempt another cycle without an AE or AI ever again.

I say this from personal letro-remideated gyno experience.

Word I never knew you fought with it perry. Good stuff and yeah I won't even touch A cycle without having some nearby "just in case" lol.

I just can't believe its almost completely gone!

 

[nutshairy]

needto.....should i be using nolva as well as letro for my gyno issues???????
i have plenty on hand 20 mg

 

[needtogetaas]

needto.....should i be using nolva as well as letro for my gyno issues???????
i have plenty on hand 20 mg

depends on the cycle you were on and how far from it you are.

 

[nutshairy]

still on it 9 weeks in,deca 400 and sus 500

been on letro almost 2 weeks and has def helped

p.s all of a sudden strength has shot way up this week,my lifting goals have already been met

 

[nutshairy]

is that u the avatar pic???????

 

[partagus]

This is a great thread. Thanks for all the great info!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

is that u the avatar pic???????

yes

 

[perryscoon]

needto.....should i be using nolva as well as letro for my gyno issues???????
i have plenty on hand 20 mg

No need for nolva while on letro. Leto kills like 95% of all estrogen so its over kill to begin with, but you need to run novla as soon as you stop the letro to counter estrogen rebound.

 

[herblcure]

Sorry to bother but reading this has caused me some concern :

1. I was told that if using tren, clomid is the best thing to use for pct - as well as hcg - does this sound correct?
2. if this is correct, is there a way to combat the gyno that I may already have from a few years ago winstrol stint I went on with no pct?

 

[herblcure]

sorry . I may have missed it but can we also get the post to the original article by needto?

 

[elcamello]

Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife as a nice set of tits. Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young.

No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all.

She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go.


There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way.

Now this dos no always work and it dos not work for every one. Some women that want to be men have to get surgery and same for some men that want to be a women.

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

Thanks needto it makes sense. So if I was to do this protocol if I cycle again I always have to use an AI for my cycles.

 

[needtogetaas]

Sorry to bother but reading this has caused me some concern :

1. I was told that if using tren, clomid is the best thing to use for pct - as well as hcg - does this sound correct?
2. if this is correct, is there a way to combat the gyno that I may already have from a few years ago winstrol stint I went on with no pct?

Just send me a pm bro.

 

[MADBALL99]

hmmmm...

 

[nygiants]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

Can you shoot us the original thread or tell us what the recomendation was?

 

[Knights2]

i agree...is there a way we can post the original thread...or the dosages that you guys used for the letro/nolva combo

 

[needtogetaas]

Just send me a pm. Most people have different cases and different causes. I like to handle this person by person.

 

[nygiants]

Just send me a pm. Most people have different cases and different causes. I like to handle this person by person.

PM sent....Thanks!

 

[digitizedsoul]

Yeah the thread I found referenced a case almost verbatim to my own. This is why I found it worked so well for me.

As needto said though, it really is a case by case basis. As he stated there are several "pathways" and responsible horomones that can all lead to gyno. Eliminating it depends on which one is causing the most issue for YOU, hence his case by case approach.


Needto man I gotta hand it to you, helping these bro's out one on one like that is grounds for serious respect / props. I send both your way my friend (since you already have infinite K) lol.

 

[Knights2]

PM had been sent...hope to here from you soon!

 

[natecr]

so all you took was letro and nolva.. what about just letro?? And how long does it take before your pecker starts to work again

 

[digitizedsoul]

Lol. I started my letro / nolva as part of my PCT from my "Super duper legal stack V1.0"

 

[needtogetaas]

3+yrs

I would do it for any one man. I only wish to help. Clam to be nothing.

 

[needtogetaas]

I think I got like 20000000000 served and happy since this thread was made lol... Keep the pm's coming my friends I am more then happy to help you with this kind of problem.

 

[needtogetaas]

So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

any time man I love to help.

 

[leanbulk24]

needto is going to help me with this too...just pm him...

those damn chems take for-ev-er to get here!

 

[Vedichi]

This forum is lucky to have a guy like you helping people out! I also sent you a PM regarding my gyno issue.

 

[NeedToBuildMuscle.com]

pm needto

 

[JBarry123]

i am direly in need of this info. I have pmed needto. Wish me luck

 

[needtogetaas]

I Will deff get to it bro. Just give me a bit of time. You are some where in the middle of 300 other pm's I got in the last 2 days. I am working on them now but when i get backed up they just keep piling up on me as i get to them lol..

 

[JBarry123]

thanks man.

 

[needtogetaas]

Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife has a nice set of tits, Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young. No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all. She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they are still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go. There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way. Now this does not always work and it dos not work for every one in the time frame they would like. For some it can take up to a year but IMO all gyno can be removed with out surgery

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

gee I been saying this since 2007-2008. Now people are writing Articals about it and claiming it as there own Ideas lamo... Let the record show I was the first to bring this Idea forth. This post long long before the date of the new Articles stealing the info.

 

[C.K.]

You need to make a 'needtoNOgyno' That fights all three causes of gyno

 

[gripweight]

I've had puffy nipples my whole life and I was wondering if this is something that could be taken care of by using this combo?