By Itself?????

[SonnyBlack]

Throughout mmy life ive had trouble with my estrogen levels. (ive never done an AS cycle in my life so iim guessin my test levels are naturally low or something).EVen after numerous dnp cycles and flawless diet...i always seem to retain the estrogenic layer of fat over my chest and lower abdomen. What i wanted to know is if you guys think that taking LIQUIDEX by itself might remedy this?? If so..how much would you guys recommend me taking??and for how long???Is there an amount of time that you can take it before it stops being effective?? Also..do you guys know if there iis some sort of estrogen rebound(like with nolvadex) when you stop taking it???thanks

 

[MaxBiceps]

anastrozole will only help stop the conversion of test into estrogen. it will do nothing for the estrogen floating around in your system already. Liquidex+nolvadex might be a better option.

Bump for Huck

 

[Bam Bam]

Huck is the man for this one like maxbiceps says. What about maybe clen and liquidex. Does anybody know? BamBam

 

[macrophage69alpha]

sonny,

try a non aromatic like winny or anavar....

and no there is no rebound.

Nolva is not necessary, natural estrogens have a very short half life. if you had been taking 17aa like dbol then might be neccessary in beginning.

 

[SonnyBlack]

but does it ever become ineffective after some time of usage(liquidex)? and how much do you all recommend i take per day??Also..what happens to me after i stop taking liquidex??will my estrogen problems continue??also..what else do you guys recommend for me to shed the estrogenic layer of fat???im already dieting...and doing a couple of dnp 3 day cycles in the next weeks...any other suggestions???

 

[Beezers]

After you stop taking the anasrozle you're aromitase enzyme level will once again proliferate and have the ability to bind androgens and thus aromitize them into estrogen. 1mg daily will knock out aromitization for the most part. Enough at least that estrogen will be very minimal and non-obtrusive/harmfull.

 

[el cubano]

I have a theory, don't know if it's true or not, but I think that men who have high levels of estrogen also have high levels of test. Men produce very little estrogen and the rest is made by the aromatization of the test. This is why I believe that arimidex or femara would be good for you. Estrogen doesn't have a long half life and if you block out the aromatization then your estrogen levels will drop dramatically being that your body produces very little estrogen.

A side note, I've read more than a few studies on post menapausal (sp) women and arimidex/nolvadex. The combonation of the two was no more effective at lowering estrogen levels than with arimidex only. The reason I bring this up is because men are very much like post menapausal women in terms of natural estrogen production.

 

[SonnyBlack]

I have a theory, don't know if it's true or not, but I think that men who have high levels of estrogen also have high levels of test. Men produce very little estrogen and the rest is made by the aromatization of the test. This is why I believe that arimidex or femara would be good for you. Estrogen doesn't have a long half life and if you block out the aromatization then your estrogen levels will drop dramatically being that your body produces very little estrogen.

A side note, I've read more than a few studies on post menapausal (sp) women and arimidex/nolvadex. The combonation of the two was no more effective at lowering estrogen levels than with arimidex only. The reason I bring this up is because men are very much like post menapausal women in terms of natural estrogen production.

ive always believed in this theory as well....and i think that might be what is wrong with me.because i have the symptoms of normal test levels...buut also alot of the symptoms of higher than normal estrogen levels. I start my arimidex treatment this week...anything else you guys think i should know about that will help me in my quest to rip up as much as possible and loose my estrogenic fat pockets...IM OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS AND CRITICISM. thanks

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump

 

[VANIAN]

Are you just guessing you have high estrogen levels? Or have you have you taken a blood test. It's hard to know what the dosage should be if you don't know how much estrogen you truly have floating around. I'd start with a 1/4mg a day and then get tested to see where you're at. You'd want it in the low normal range. You can get a script for Arimidex if you truly have high estrogen levels.

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump

thanks...any other advice?

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump

 

[SonnyBlack]

final bump....................

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Have you tried yohimbine? Mac can speak to this much clearer than myself, but doesn't it 'target' the estrogenic fat deposits?

 

[SonnyBlack]

i tried yohimburn and it worked ok...but the thing is that my estrogen levels persisted after. I know i dont have low test levels(i have a healthy sex drive)..but i suspect that i have high estrogen levels. You know how they say that after you lift weights, your test levels shoot up...after i lift weights (im natural) my left pec(started to develop a bit of natural gyno) starts hurting and itching...so i know something is up. I really hope the liquidex will help me out some. Any other suggestions please let me know. thanks bros.

 

[mvmaxx]

I know i dont have low test levels(i have a healthy sex drive

Just because you have a healthy sex drive doesn't necessarily mean you don't have low test levels. The only way to find out is via blood work.

 

[SonnyBlack]

true...i havent had any tests done.

 

[VANIAN]

I'd seriously look into getting some blood tests done before you start taking anything. If you have insurance you can get it for free. If not, order some saliva tests at $30 per test. Get free test, total test, and estradiol. If you truly do have high estrogen levels, you should be able to get a script from your doctor for arimidex or Femara.