Butanediol - legal status and health questions

[Machiavellian Muscle]

hard to describe put 1.4 seems to get me more happy and dizzy.

 

[drrman]

yeh, 1,4 definitely lasts longer, and its more intense, but the worst part is if you take too much, you are fucked for a very long time, vs real GHB when you take a little too much i can usually fight it off and never really go out like the 1,4. Best way with 1,4 i have found is mix it like this, 6 ounces 1,4 and 10 ounces water in a 16 ounce bottle, then 1 cap is good, two is great and three is too much. thats the best ratio i have found for it when using the "bottle cap" dosage

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

I usually just take 6ml liters in my mouth and chase with a drink. Salty g will definitely not hit me as hard, but you are right 1.4 can lay you out no fight. Also, 1.4 seems to make me feel like shit if I do it for consective days weeks etc. Also 1.4 seems to be a little harder to kick when you want to come off it. But the high is definitely better.

 

[Staind]

MMX, one of the moderators of the Anabolic Extreme forum responded to this same post that Butanediol was Schedule III...Can anyone else confirm this or point me to something clear cut?

 

[Staind]

And here are some quotes from www.erowid.org

"1,4 B is not federally scheduled or controlled though we believe that it is now scheduled in some states. It is not approved by the FDA for human consumption which generally means that possession is federally legal while sale for human consumption may be illegal.

Last Modified - Mon, Jul 16, 2001"

"1,4-Butanediol is not scheduled in the United States though we believe that it may now be scheduled in some states. It is not approved by the FDA for human consumption which generally means that possession is federally legal while sale for human consumption may specifically be illegal. It is possible that possession and sales could be prosecuted under the Federal Analog Act (as an analog of GHB) though we are unaware of any such existing cases.

USA STATES

Florida: Schedule I. 1,4-butanediol is specifically listed as controlled under florida law along with GHB and GBL.

Last Modified - Mon, Jan 14, 2002"

What do you all think? fairly recent updates but I am still concerned...

 

[Staind]

More good links...the governments power is scary.

http://www.law.emory.edu/11circuit/may2002/01-11320.opn.html

http://www.ceri.com/ghb-a67.htm

 

[Staind]

bump

 

[1Mistake]

as one of the developers of EnLiven, I know what all the laws are.FL,CA & GA are the worst to get caught with 1,4 GBL or GHB .ALL of them are class I now. What most people don't know is that all 3 are in almost all of the foods we eat esp. red meat. Dozens of cases or convictions have been dropped because of this fact. We had our 1,4 made in an FDA approved lab at that time...the wharehouse got raided and all product was taken last yr...so you will get arrested!!!
Be careful

J

 

[hippedy hop]

as one of the developers of EnLiven, I know what all the laws are.FL,CA & GA are the worst to get caught with 1,4 GBL or GHB .ALL of them are class I now. What most people don't know is that all 3 are in almost all of the foods we eat esp. red meat. Dozens of cases or convictions have been dropped because of this fact. We had our 1,4 made in an FDA approved lab at that time...the wharehouse got raided and all product was taken last yr...so you will get arrested!!!
Be careful

J

since you are familiar with precursors of G- When was 1,4 butendiol developed, and was it's invention the result of GHB being banned.

 

[drrman]

its invention was that of an industrial solvent i believe