bunker!

[Spartacus]

" Nestor Machno. The leader of Ukrainian anarchists and talanted military commander, very daring himself, once a well known bandit he came on birthday party of some of magnate where police officers proposed a toast to his (Machno) capture. He throwed them grenade on the table... many loved his spirit and joined his gang, later army. Anarchists found support among armed men, everyone wanted to live in a country with no taxes and no bureaucrats. Very soon Machno army controlled large territories in size of a big european state. They even had own newspapers."

before the war with germany

 

[Spartacus]

"everyone wanted to live in a country with no taxes and no bureaucrats."

 

[Spartacus]

"Occupation of Kiev lasted two years and two month. It began in September 1941. The same days when Soviet army have been trapped in a marsh German army began occupying Kiev. Germans found town in chaos. On central market they saw how some people were selling human meat. Germans caught the human flesh sellers and strung up the enterprising gentlemen right on a spot. They left them for people to see that new authority call for order."

 

[Spartacus]

the massacre at Babi Yar;

"This is Old Woman Ravine, or Baby Yar in Russian.

It is a mass grave for more than 100.000 of victims of holocaust. All have been shot right here in 1941-1943. It is where boys playing football. The capacity of our central stadium is less than 100,000 and I believe, if the boys would understood the history of the site, they would move out and find some other place for football. They simply do not know.

They are unaware that their favorite soccer club Dynamo was sent here in 1942. The old name for "Dynamo" was "Start", it used to be ones of the best club in a Soviet Union, so they won several games against German and Hungarian clubs and after defeating Flakelf the Dynamo soccer team players were arrested and sent to death at Baby Yar."

 

[Spartacus]

" Everyone who visits this place and has a few minutes to think comes to the same feeling, they start losing faith in people."

 

[DIVISION]

None of this relates even remotely to Joy Division or anything we've discussed previously.

Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder how you even listen to Joy Division with all the other shit you talk about......

Karma Bookie? Who gives a fuck about gambling Karma?

Joy Division wasn't about that......I think you've lost the touch and the feeling.....





DIV

 

[Eringobraugh]

Excellent thread in my opinion 4ever, very interesting website, I went through alot of it, the fact that most people cant see past their own times and view the world, geopolitics and the history of war in anything more than today and the last two weeks, it becomes pointless to even attempt to discuss issues. It would take many years of reading materiale such as this and a passion for knowing for them to discuss things outside of their ego and understand and learn the world around us.

 

[NJjuice22]

this is awesome and i wish i lived in a time where serving your country was so valiant, i cant think of a better way to die.

 

[Spartacus]

None of this relates even remotely to Joy Division or anything we've discussed previously.

Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder how you even listen to Joy Division with all the other shit you talk about......

Karma Bookie? Who gives a fuck about gambling Karma?

Joy Division wasn't about that......I think you've lost the touch and the feeling.....





DIV

"these days"

 

[DIVISION]

"these days"

"decades"






DIV