Bulking to greatness input on cycle please from pros

[Silv]

Ive decided to take it to the next level. Shooting for 270lbs!!! With an obvious cut after. Current stats are 6'3 230lbs at 13% I'm also 26. I have a few cycles under my belt.
Planned cycle is
1-15 test 400 2ml per week
1-12 Deca 500 per week
1-14 eq 400 per week
50mg per day dbol staring the 15th day for 30 days (long esters so my other gear is fully kicked in at end of dbol)

I'll have caber and Arimidex on hand (probably running a low dose for safety sake)

I'm not prone to gyno already bald and bad acne from genetics so I'm not worried about sides. Never ran decA normally a tren guy but want to see how I respond to deca. Tren suppresses my appetite.

As far as pct
Hcg
Nolva
Feel free to add more that's the basic I normally run.

 

[shaved_ape]

Are you going to run slin? I couldn't ever imagine getting to 270 without it.


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[Silv]

I know nothing about it, except it's very dangerous to run.

 

[broscience]

This is the basics of this forum please state your stats: age, height, weight, bf, cycle experience

1 thing I will tell you is that your PCT is WAAAAAAAAY BELOW STANDARDS.

But first lets see your stats before diving into this in more detail.

 

[Silv]

Stats are there just written out instead of bullets. Again though
6'3
230lbs
13%
26 years old
4 cycles ran tren test eq win dbol (not all at one time of course)

That pct is very basic which is why I left room for more.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Run the Test 16 weeks, 500mg
Deca 12 weeks, 400mg
EQ 16 weeks, 600-800mg
Run the D-Bol from the start, start with 30mg and bump the dose up as you go. 4 weeks should be good. Make sure you are protecting yourself with the dbol. N2Guard is a must.

If you really want to push the muscle gains, add in Tren Ace around week 7 and run until the end. Start with 100mg/eod.

I'd definitely run the arimidex and caber on cycle. It is better to prevent than cure. If you don't have them already.. check out AG-Guys. best research chems in the biz.

1-16 Test E, 500mg/week
1-16 Equipoise, 600-800mg/week
1-12 Deca, 400mg/week
7-16 Tren Ace, 100mg/eod
1-4 D-Bol, 30-50mg/day

I'd also advice a more complete PCT. You are going to be making all these gains on cycle.. think I'll assume you want to keep some of them?

1-4 Clomid, 50/50/25/25
1-4 Nolva, 40/40/20/20
1-6 N2BM Liquidex, 2ml/day
1-4 HCGenerate
1-6 Unleasehd
1-6 D-AA

 

[Silv]

Thanks reps exactly what I needed. Dbols are 50mg caps so hard to do just 30 lol. As far as tren I prefer tren e should I run it at 400 a week 6-15 or 5-14?Since it has the longer ester.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Caps fucking suck. You're going to need to split the dosage up through-out the day. And 50mg is already a big boy dose. Stick with on Cap a day and try to split it am/pm at least.

Tren E is fine, start at week 7 and run until the end.. (10 weeks). 400mg should be plenty, but if you can handle.. bump to 600 at week 12.

 

[Silv]

How effective is eq? I was using it because I heard running tren and deca together can be an issue. But if I can save buying 3-4 bottles of eq that would rock. Eq is beneficial I know but with tren and deca it seems like I wouldn't notice the benefit. It would just be outshone by tren and deca.

Secondly any discussion points on tren and deca together. I've heard they fight for the same receptor and can be a waste. But idk how much is fact compared to opinion.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

I think they would all work beautifully together.

Fighting for receptors? Hogwash.

 

[Jbranken]

How effective is eq? I was using it because I heard running tren and deca together can be an issue. But if I can save buying 3-4 bottles of eq that would rock. Eq is beneficial I know but with tren and deca it seems like I wouldn't notice the benefit. It would just be outshone by tren and deca.

Secondly any discussion points on tren and deca together. I've heard they fight for the same receptor and can be a waste. But idk how much is fact compared to opinion.

It's not rewrote competition you need to worry about, it's prolactin and a dead dick. Be sure you're using caber and aromasin on cycle to control E and prolactin.

 

[Jack steel]

Are you going to run slin? I couldn't ever imagine getting to 270 without it.


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I don't know why you say that. I don't see slin as being the "be all, end all" of getting huge personally. Though with that being said I WOULD use it as well but that's just because I've used it before and it no longer scares me. It can kill you but you're bulking and if you eat then you're fine. It's not rocket science. It's no different than your natural insulin you'd probably produce that day anyway, but the key to slin is taking advantage of the timing. But, again, I don't think you necessarily need slin to reach 270.

 

[shaved_ape]

I don't know why you say that. I don't see slin as being the "be all, end all" of getting huge personally. Though with that being said I WOULD use it as well but that's just because I've used it before and it no longer scares me. It can kill you but you're bulking and if you eat then you're fine. It's not rocket science. It's no different than your natural insulin you'd probably produce that day anyway, but the key to slin is taking advantage of the timing. But, again, I don't think you necessarily need slin to reach 270.

I said that that because it is amazing for ME on a bulk. I wouldn't be slamming down huge amounts of carbs without it. Yes, yes its dangerous if your a first timer that has done no research. Thus the reason I asked was because there would be no way I could pack that weight on without it. But heck if you didn't need it I wouldn't use it.


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