bulking then cutting????

[elmrod]

i am due 2 start my bulking cycle on monday 13th nov 4 12 wks

1-12 wks deca 500mg wk
1-12 wks sust 500mg wk
1-4 wks androl 50mg ed
6-12 wks dbol 50mg ed
1-15 AIFM 3 pumps ed
13-15 wks hcg 500iu ed
16-18 wks clomid 100mg ed

then i am going 2 do a cuttin cycle 4 12 wks ready 4 the summer(starts july in the uk).this is my cycle:

1-12 wks test eth 500mg wk
1-6 wks var 80mg ed
7-12 winstrol 50mg ed
4-8 wks tren 150mg wk
1- 15 AIFM 2 pumps ed
14-18 clomid 100mg ed

the problem that iv got is that if i have 12 wks off after my bulking cycle i carn't fit my cutting cycle in b 4 the summer and i dont want 2 miss it as we only get a few wks in th uk!! i dont want 2 shorten the bulking cycle if at all poss, any input woul b v helpfull. sorry bout the long thread. thanx guys.

 

[freakusmc]

i am due 2 start my bulking cycle on monday 13th nov 4 12 wks

1-12 wks deca 500mg wk
1-12 wks sust 500mg wk
1-4 wks androl 50mg ed
6-12 wks dbol 50mg ed
1-15 AIFM 3 pumps ed
13-15 wks hcg 500iu ed
16-18 wks clomid 100mg ed

then i am going 2 do a cuttin cycle 4 12 wks ready 4 the summer(starts july in the uk).this is my cycle:

1-12 wks test eth 500mg wk
1-6 wks var 80mg ed
7-12 winstrol 50mg ed
4-8 wks tren 150mg wk
1- 15 AIFM 2 pumps ed
14-18 clomid 100mg ed

the problem that iv got is that if i have 12 wks off after my bulking cycle i carn't fit my cutting cycle in b 4 the summer and i dont want 2 miss it as we only get a few wks in th uk!! i dont want 2 shorten the bulking cycle if at all poss, any input woul b v helpfull. sorry bout the long thread. thanx guys.

Have you run this cycle before? I would definately up the test amounts in your bulker, I always run higher test than deca, otherwise the dreaded deca dick happens, atleast for me. I would 600 test per 400 deca but that just me. For your cutter, use more tren to get better results. To get to your actual question, the 12 on, 12 off cycle isnt scientific and you can start up your next cycle as soon as your blood levels return to normal. So if your hpta levels are normal in 6 weeks, you are ok to cycle again. You could also try using shorter acting ethers to #1, lessen your recovery time between cycles, or #2, run a shorter cycle with the same results, ie run test suspension vs. test e. just my $0.02.

 

[elmrod]

Have you run this cycle before? I would definately up the test amounts in your bulker, I always run higher test than deca, otherwise the dreaded deca dick happens, atleast for me. I would 600 test per 400 deca but that just me. For your cutter, use more tren to get better results. To get to your actual question, the 12 on, 12 off cycle isnt scientific and you can start up your next cycle as soon as your blood levels return to normal. So if your hpta levels are normal in 6 weeks, you are ok to cycle again. You could also try using shorter acting ethers to #1, lessen your recovery time between cycles, or #2, run a shorter cycle with the same results, ie run test suspension vs. test e. just my $0.02.

this is the first time with them altogether,i hear wat ur saying bout the test running it higher than the deca but the deca that i have got is 250mg/ml and the sust is the same,wat im getting at is when i jab more than 1ml at a time i seem 2 get sore and or swell up a bit stopping me from jabbing the same butt cheek twice in 1 wk,so i will b doing 4 jabs a wk,i find 2 jabs in each cheek per wk is my limit and i dont do site inj

 

[Ulter]

Do yourself a big favor. Swap the deca and use 600mg/wk of NPP.

 

[elmrod]

Do yourself a big favor. Swap the deca and use 600mg/wk of NPP.

i wont b able 2 get any in time and is hard 4 me 2 get local

 

[nydj66]

this is the first time with them altogether,i hear wat ur saying bout the test running it higher than the deca but the deca that i have got is 250mg/ml and the sust is the same,wat im getting at is when i jab more than 1ml at a time i seem 2 get sore and or swell up a bit stopping me from jabbing the same butt cheek twice in 1 wk,so i will b doing 4 jabs a wk,i find 2 jabs in each cheek per wk is my limit and i dont do site inj

Most syringes are labeled in 0.2ml increments so one increment below the 1cc mark is 0.8cc = 200mg.

You can safely inject 3 cc into your glute at a time. It is the sust (actually the benzyl acohol in the sust) that causes the pain after injection. Deca should not hurt at all. So, if you put 1cc sust and 0.8cc deca in the same syringe and inject together, you will minimize the pain. Shoot that twice weekly and you're doing 500mg sust/400mg deca.

You could switch from sust to test-e and eliminate the injection pain altogether.

 

[Makavelli]

Why not just hold off on the bulk and run a bulk and then a cutter one after the other into the summer? Do a show cycle. 20 weeks total. 10 bulking and then 10 cutting.

 

[elmrod]

Most syringes are labeled in 0.2ml increments so one increment below the 1cc mark is 0.8cc = 200mg.

You can safely inject 3 cc into your glute at a time. It is the sust (actually the benzyl acohol in the sust) that causes the pain after injection. Deca should not hurt at all. So, if you put 1cc sust and 0.8cc deca in the same syringe and inject together, you will minimize the pain. Shoot that twice weekly and you're doing 500mg sust/400mg deca.

You could switch from sust to test-e and eliminate the injection pain altogether.

i will try that thanx. the deca that iv got is nandrolone decanoate decabol form BD it that wat u mean by npp?

thanx 4 ur time guys k for u all

 

[nydj66]

i will try that thanx. the deca that iv got is nandrolone decanoate decabol form BD it that wat u mean by npp?

thanx 4 ur time guys k for u all

NPP is nandrolone phenylpropionate. It is the same base steroid as deca with a shorter ester attached. It is faster acting but has to be injected at least every other day.

 

[elmrod]

NPP is nandrolone phenylpropionate. It is the same base steroid as deca with a shorter ester attached. It is faster acting but has to be injected at least every other day.

that 2 meany jabs 4 me man!!!! i think il have 2 stick wiv the deca
i once shot 2ml 500mg of deca and my butt blew up like a football,went red in was itchy as fuck,any1 no wat happend??