Bulking cycle! Help!

[Alpine]

Winter Bulking Cycle

Enanthate Deca Dbol
1. 1000 400 30
2. 750 400 30
3. 750 400 30
4. 500 400 30
5. 500 400
6. 500 400
7. 500 400
8. 500 400
9. 250 200
10. 250 200

Clen & ECA alternate every 2weeks
Slin 4 days a week - daily dosage ?
Clomid Therapy starting 3 weeks after last Deca shot
- day 1 300mg
- day 2-7 100mg
- day 8-21 50mg eod

I could use Omnadren or Enanthate. Recommendations?

What do you guys think of front loading the test for the first 3 weeks and then tapering all the juice down at the end?

I could extend the Dbol out to 6 weeks, but not sure if I should.

Could someone recommend a dosage for the Slin?

Any comments on this?
All comments and suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for all your help!

 

[Zyglamail]

Why taper the AAS?

 

[Alpine]

My workout partner recommended that it would help get my natural test levels back up quicker.

 

[Victory]

Why taper the AAS?

Ok if you didn't taper the TEST this would change the time at which you would want to start your clomid therepy? If you run the TEST with no taper you would have greater blood concentration at the end of the cycle, thus you would want to start the clomid further out after your last shot.

I think the taper might be better for you so you don't have a crash at the end. Just my thought.

 

[Zyglamail]

I for one dont believe it will. And at the same time your taking external androgens and not getting the full benefit of them due to reduced doses. Your best bet is to take clomid post cycle in conjunction with anastozole. They will work synergistically to get hpta back up and running.

Even your lowest dose of the taper is about what a guy produces in a week so in other words it will still prevent hpta recovery. Use the AAS to its fullest, get off and start post cycle recovery, your just cheating yourself out of gains if you taper at the end.

 

[23Guage]

If you are bulking do you really want to run the clen concurrent with your other gear? I prefer running 2 seperate cycles, one for bulking and then one for cutting. I don't want to burn calories while bulking.

My .02

 

[Alpine]

23 Gauge - I can see your point about not running the clen during a cycle. How about immediatly after? I thought Clen could help retain gains.

 

[HONSZ]

Do Dbols 6 weeks - tapering in week 6 !!
Greetz

 

[mlomker]

I prefer running 2 seperate cycles, one for bulking and then one for cutting.

He could certainly use the clen post cycle. Clen has an anti-catabolic effect so it'd actually be helpful then. I do run T3 during cycles to minimize muscle loss and in theory the increased protein synthesis should help.

I also wouldn't taper but anyone that thinks the human body makes 250mg/wk is ignorant. The figure is 60-85mg/wk for a healthy male and older guys produce even less.

Keep in mind that enanthate's ester works about 3 weeks out so you'll have to wait a while for clomid anyway. If you want to speed up post cycle then stop the deca/enanthate 3-4 weeks early and switch to test prop/winny shot daily. Run a mass phase for 8 weeks and then switching to a hardening phase for 4 weeks is a great way to cycle.

 

[Zyglamail]

I also wouldn't taper but anyone that thinks the human body makes 250mg/wk is ignorant. The figure is 60-85mg/wk for a healthy male and older guys produce even less.

I didnt give specifics, I said about. The logic still applies that with the tapered dose, he is still taking in more externally than would be produced naturally so the tapering to speed recovery is a myth.

Yours truely, Mr. Ignorant.