Bulk more/Cut? Clen/Test Cyp

[OCD Guy]

Preface: On TRT for ~ 7 years - had never taken AAS when diagnosed.

So I went to the gym today, full of anticipation as to my BF% and was measured at 28% on the Average setting and 21% on the Athletic setting. The personal trainer there told me to average the 2 to get a rough estimate on my real BF, sometimes the machine is calibrated incorrectly and could be off by as much as 3% and also mentioned I may want to try another day for consistency. I was hoping I was at 18% BF as my goal has been to put on some additional size to my upper chest (yes, obsessed) as well as strength to my incline DB press. My goal in the long term is to be about 14% BF perhaps. Aesthetically, my fiance likes my body; so it's not for the chicks...well, mostly not.

Where the rubber meets the road or something like that - I have clen and plenty of available T - as in, I have enough to frontload it and do 300 mg weekly for 8ish weeks. I don't particularly like using diet supp's, mainly because most are garbage or just don't work well with me, but I've never used clen.

My ideas:
1.) Diet with or without clen and swallow my ego on my "strength in the gym" fetish.
2.) Diet with clen and add T to at least maintain as much as strength as I can.
3.) Say screw it and just "blast", as the kids say, the T I have for 6-8 weeks (the mg of T I use could go up a bit and the duration could shorten to as little as 5ish weeks (frontload).

I've seen out there in the Internets that there seems to be those who follow the school of diet or bulk and never the twain shall meet and those whose thinking is, I am Johnny Redbone and I WILL gain muscle WHILE I lose fat.

Opinions and experience appreciated.

 

[MattJS]

Which machine? If its one of those things with the contact plates that send an electric charge to measure your bf% they are seriously inaccurate, the best way to get an accurate bf% measurement unless you have one of those bodpod things handy is to get someone who knows how to use calipers properly to do it for you... Also I'd leave the clen well alone some shitty sides with it and you'd get better results from just adjusting your diet...

 

[dylangemelli]

if those numbers are anywhere near accurate then you should not be using anything whatsoever... the only thing you should be doing is developing a stricter and more consistent diet and workout routine... you need to incorporate much more cardio and PUT IN THE WORK... I am sorry and I am not trying to be a dick in any sort of way but if I don't break it down properly, you won't understand and you could possibly hurt yourself... at those numbers, you are not working hard at all at any of these things and putting these substances in your body is putting you at a tremendously high risk of severe problems... you need to get the things worked out that i mentioned... things like clen, are very very bad for your heart so imagine someone in your condition with fat that high... cruising is not going to do it for you either... your rate of estrogen conversion will be terrible amongst other things... you need to put in the work and not try to be dependent on chemicals and compounds to do the work for you...