building bigger lats?

[HAYEZ]

ok my routine right now consists of these exercises that do not directly hit the lats but do have them assisst
bent over row 3 sets
seated cable row 1 set

then i do my directly hitting exercise
wide grip pull downs 2 sets....

what you guys think?undertraining or just impatient?

 

[tzan]

ok my routine right now consists of these exercises that do not directly hit the lats but do have them assisst
bent over row 3 sets
seated cable row 1 set

then i do my directly hitting exercise
wide grip pull downs 2 sets....

what you guys think?undertraining or just impatient?

No new answer hear, but throw in weighted pullups. I can't tell you how much they ahve helped my back. I think you can add another exercise to really hit your lats. Here is my current back routine:

weighted wide pullups-10/8/6
weighted close pullups- 10/8/6
BO Rows-8/6/12
pulldowns/supersetted with high cable straight arm pulldowns(no idea what the exercise is called)-2x10

 

[BOOEY]

Try doing pullups first. Throw in machine-pulldows (variations in grip, underhand, close, etc) at the end of your workout to finish them off

 

[HAYEZ]

the pull ups are you doing these wide grip or close grip?thanks for help guys karma to you all..... should i go 2 or 3 set

 

[b fold the truth]

Chins (palms away)
2-3 sets of max reps

Barbell or Dbell rows
2-3 sets of varying reps

Deadlifts
3-5 sets of varying reps

Seated Pulley Rows (if needed)
1-2 sets of varying reps

B True

 

[tzan]

the pull ups are you doing these wide grip or close grip?thanks for help guys karma to you all..... should i go 2 or 3 set

I do 3 sets of wide grip followed by 3 sets of closegrip. They are my main exercise for back width.

 

[HAYEZ]

is this with your palms facing you or away?so then this is gonna hit my bis/brach pretty hard too...should i cut down on my curls /preacher curls? i do 3 sets curls 2 sets preacher 3 sets hammer curls dumbell...thanks

 

[tzan]

is this with your palms facing you or away?so then this is gonna hit my bis/brach pretty hard too...should i cut down on my curls /preacher curls? i do 3 sets curls 2 sets preacher 3 sets hammer curls dumbell...thanks

What are your splits?? Are you working your back with your biceps??

When I do my wide pullups it's with my palms facing away. With the closegrip my palms are facing each other. There is no question that pulls will your bi's s well as your back. I lift my bi's on a seperate day so they get killed on one day and then they also get hit not as directly when I lift back.

 

[Scotsman]

1. rows do directly hit the lats. Especially low rows and bent over rows unless you aren't leaning forward enough.

2. Pulldowns wide grip work more teres minor and long tricepts than actual lats. Use a narrower grip to focus in or even a v-grip handle.

3. Deadlifts are excellent as well as b-true's suggestions.

The main thing on rows is that you keep your elbows in and focus on squeuzing with your back.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[HAYEZ]

chest/tri mon
back/bi tues
wed off
legs/shoulders thurs
fri off
chest/tri sat
back/bi sun
and so on

i was only hitting each time a week but now im cycleing so im hitting them a lttl.e more...thanks for all help guys...they have always grown but i would really like for them to explode now...lol

 

[Texas Ranger]

Chins (palms away)
2-3 sets of max reps

Barbell or Dbell rows
2-3 sets of varying reps

Deadlifts
3-5 sets of varying reps

Seated Pulley Rows (if needed)
1-2 sets of varying reps

B True

This is an EXCELLENT recommendation!! This is all you need to build a wide back. You "might" want to add 2 sets of Pullovers(Machine or Dumbbell), instead of the Seated Pulley Rows to hit your Lats from a different angle.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

ok my routine right now consists of these exercises that do not directly hit the lats but do have them assisst
bent over row 3 sets
seated cable row 1 set

then i do my directly hitting exercise
wide grip pull downs 2 sets....

what you guys think?undertraining or just impatient?

are these your work sets? i go through about 4-5 warm up sets for deads alone before hitting my 2-3 work sets..the back is such a large body part its kinda hard to really overtrain it with 6 sets..

 

[HAYEZ]

are these your work sets? i go through about 4-5 warm up sets for deads alone before hitting my 2-3 work sets..the back is such a large body part its kinda hard to really overtrain it with 6 sets..

i also do 20 reps 1 set for warm up on deads and then do 4 heavy sets of deads...thanks for all ifo guys...kAARMA FOR ALL

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i also do 20 reps 1 set for warm up on deads and then do 4 heavy sets of deads...thanks for all ifo guys...kAARMA FOR ALL

yikes...i hate high rep deads..i never go above 10 reps..i just keep upping the weight, lower reps until im ready to hit my work sets...

 

[HAYEZ]

lol....i only use around 50% weight so it isnt to bad..lol...ive never had any problems so far....knock on wood..lol

 

[SAGAT]

i'd try bfold's suggestion. IMO all you need for back are deads, chins and rows.