Building a MONSTER!! Need help planning cycle

[Bharper]

Ok, I'm trying to setup a cycle for my friend. Here are his stats and history. He is 25, 6'2" 250 12-13%bf. He has done 3 cycles before. He seems to have great results from little use of gear. His first cycle we goined 65 lbs in 12 weeks and kept 50!

His first cycle was this:
1-10 Test E 500mg
1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
1-8 Deca Norma's 300mg
8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
1-12 Nolvadex 20mg Ed
PCT Clomid 50mg ED 2 weeks

He took advantage of the dining hall's all u can eat, and it payed off! He also has taken EQ, Var and Tren Acetate on the next cycles.

He is looking to stay roughly the same size (clothing wise, so he could probably put on 15 lbs and go to 265, while dropping some bf) Idealy he would like to get down to single digit bf. So if he lost 5% bf, that is 13 lbs of fat.

Here are my thoughts on the cycle. Money is a concern here so we are looking for the bast bang for the buck.

Here was what I was thinking

1-4 50mg Anavar ED
1-13 500mg Test E
1-12 500mg EQ
1-8 400mg Tren E
9-15 50mg Anavar ED
16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED

Clen, T3 and Ephedrine HCL will be used throughout the cycle. I was thinking of this:
2-4 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
7-9 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
12-15 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
2-4 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
7-9 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
12-15 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
**On weeks not on Clen or T3, Run ECA stack, but need suggestions on dosing

 

[GeneticFreak18]

You want to get huge take this
1-12 sustanon 1,000mg/wk
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
1-4 Dbol 50mg/wk
8-12 winny 100mg/ED
1-12 GH 5 iu/ED
1-12 insulin 10iu/ED

 

[x_con]

looks like you've got everything planned out pretty well. As far as ECA goes the stack is usually 25mg ephedrine 200mg caffiene and 300mg asprin. take this stack three times split up throughout the day, not to close to bed time for obvious reasons. I would suggest starting out with half stacks to build a little tolerance and see how you react. ECA is a wonderful fat burning stack but it can be a little harsh i you take to much to quickly. Hope this helps.

 

[Outtlaw]

You want to get huge take this
1-12 sustanon 1,000mg/wk
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
1-4 Dbol 50mg/wk
8-12 winny 100mg/ED
1-12 GH 5 iu/ED
1-12 insulin 10iu/ED

Not what I'd use to get huge, but a step in the right direction.

 

[Bharper]

You want to get huge take this
1-12 sustanon 1,000mg/wk
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
1-4 Dbol 50mg/wk
8-12 winny 100mg/ED
1-12 GH 5 iu/ED
1-12 insulin 10iu/ED

I think you might have missed some of the post. He want so stay roughly the same physical size (lose fat, replace with muscle). I think that your cycle looks pretty nice, but I think he would blow up too much on it.

-Winny is too hash on joints, especially at 100mg ED.
-I said $$ is a major consideration. For the GH, I would need 420IU. Is this cheap? Maybe you know something I don't.......

-how much is insulin and what are the effects? I thought it just helped the uptake of nutrients after a meal.

-What about anti-e's? none with dbol and 1g sust a week? have u ever run that?.....

Thank again for the advice, but I think we are heading in opposite directions here.

 

[Outtlaw]

Here was what I was thinking

1-4 50mg Anavar ED
1-13 500mg Test E
1-12 500mg EQ
1-8 400mg Tren E
9-15 50mg Anavar ED
16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED

If that's the gear you want to use, I'd cut the var wks 1-4 and increase dose on the var wks 9-15.

 

[Bharper]

If that's the gear you want to use, I'd cut the var wks 1-4 and increase dose on the var wks 9-15.

Out of curiosity, why cut it in the beginning? would it be fine to run it in the beginnig and increase it at the end?

What about using Tbol at the beginnig 4 weeks @ 50mg ED and 75mg Var 9-15?

 

[GeneticFreak18]

i'm going to be running the cycle i posted starting next month. I'm currently 230lbs at 5'9 bf around 12%. I've used sust at 750mg/wk and dbol 35/wk before, but i figured time to bump it up. And yes the HGH is costly but well worth the money if yuo can swing it. As for the slin, taking Growth w/o the slin is like peanut butter w/o the jelly. Growth works okay by itself...slin works like shit by itself...but combine the two and you got a match made in heaven. you could even throw in the IGF-1 if you do decide to go that route. But like you stated...not the same idea. i just wanted to get you jacked lol

 

[Outtlaw]

Out of curiosity, why cut it in the beginning? would it be fine to run it in the beginnig and increase it at the end?

What about using Tbol at the beginnig 4 weeks @ 50mg ED and 75mg Var 9-15?

I didnt realize you were using tren E. In that case I'd run the var you were going to use at the end for wks 1-8. Run it at least 75mg/day. If that cycle by itself wasnt enough, then I'd increase the injectables. If I absolutely had to go back to an oral at the end, then I'd use winstrol. Just personal preference.

 

[Bozwell]

Ok, I'm trying to setup a cycle for my friend. Here are his stats and history. He is 25, 6'2" 250 12-13%bf. He has done 3 cycles before. He seems to have great results from little use of gear. His first cycle we goined 65 lbs in 12 weeks and kept 50!

His first cycle was this:
1-10 Test E 500mg
1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
1-8 Deca Norma's 300mg
8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
1-12 Nolvadex 20mg Ed
PCT Clomid 50mg ED 2 weeks

He took advantage of the dining hall's all u can eat, and it payed off! He also has taken EQ, Var and Tren Acetate on the next cycles.

He is looking to stay roughly the same size (clothing wise, so he could probably put on 15 lbs and go to 265, while dropping some bf) Idealy he would like to get down to single digit bf. So if he lost 5% bf, that is 13 lbs of fat.

Here are my thoughts on the cycle. Money is a concern here so we are looking for the bast bang for the buck.

Here was what I was thinking

1-4 50mg Anavar ED
1-13 500mg Test E
1-12 500mg EQ
1-8 400mg Tren E
9-15 50mg Anavar ED
16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED

Clen, T3 and Ephedrine HCL will be used throughout the cycle. I was thinking of this:
2-4 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
7-9 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
12-15 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
2-4 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
7-9 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
12-15 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
**On weeks not on Clen or T3, Run ECA stack, but need suggestions on dosing

HE GAINED 65LBS AND KEPT 50 OF ONE CYCLE!!!
ID HAVE TO TO 3 CYCLES TO GAIN 50LBS
not fair