Build me a 10wk MASS cycle

[REDMACHINE]

With EQ, Deca, Dbol, Winny and Sust
Is EQ needed?
Keeping gains main concern wanting to keep 20+lbs min.

Thinking something like this---

First cycle (yes, for a friend) 225@13% worked out 8yrs+

1-3 dbol 25/ed
1-10 deca 300wk
1-10 sust 250wk
1-10 EQ 300wk
6-10 winny 50/eod
12-14 clomid 50/100/50

12-16 clen 100ed- 2 on 2 off fill w/ ECA

 

[FreakMonster]

If you want to gain 20 pounds on this cycle I would take out the Winny. It's not a mass builder. Save for a cutting cycle.

Also I would take out the EQ and just do more Test or get a hold of some Suspension. EQ is not needed if your doing Deca.

Just keep your cycle simple with Test, DBOL, and Deca

1-10 500mg Test
1-6 50mg/ed Dbol
1-10 400mg Deca

 

[PittBull666]

All you need for a first cycle is the Sust and Clomid. Run the sust for 8-10 weeks at 500mg/week. Save your gear and money for your next cycle.

I used Deca for 8 weeks at 200mg/wk and gained 20lbs my first cycle. Wish I could still do that!!

1-10 sust 500mg/wk
12-14 Clomid


666

 

[elitish13]

Add another week ot two for the dbol@30mg/day,
I agree with the guys, i would take out the EQ and up the dose on deca to 400mg and Sus to 500mg.

 

[azdave]

I don't know about running the deca at 400mg stacked with 500mg of test on his first cycle. First, that's a big cycle for a newbie, and he doesn't know how he'll react to the deca. 300mg would be plenty if he stacks that with test. I'd recommend either:

1 750 mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

or at most:

1 750mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-10 400mg EQ
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

EQ would make sure he eats enough, and the sides are easier controlled than deca. If you're going to run 500mg of test, make sure you're running an anti-e like arimidex at .5mg EOD or .5mg ED (because we don't know how much he will bloat up) or femera.

 

[REDMACHINE]

I don't know about running the deca at 400mg stacked with 500mg of test on his first cycle. First, that's a big cycle for a newbie, and he doesn't know how he'll react to the deca. 300mg would be plenty if he stacks that with test. I'd recommend either:

1 750 mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

or at most:

1 750mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-10 400mg EQ
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

EQ would make sure he eats enough, and the sides are easier controlled than deca. If you're going to run 500mg of test, make sure you're running an anti-e like arimidex at .5mg EOD or .5mg ED (because we don't know how much he will bloat up) or
femera.

do you think 750 is too high?, I was thinking 500 max IF the EQ is droped.....He wants to keep the winny to help on bloat since it doesnt convert and for the strength gains. Oh yeah running Ldex 2-11 .05ed my bad

 

[REDMACHINE]

I don't know about running the deca at 400mg stacked with 500mg of test on his first cycle. First, that's a big cycle for a newbie, and he doesn't know how he'll react to the deca. 300mg would be plenty if he stacks that with test. I'd recommend either:

1 750 mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

or at most:

1 750mg Sust
2-10 500mg Sust
1-10 400mg EQ
1-4 25mg/ed Dbol

EQ would make sure he eats enough, and the sides are easier controlled than deca. If you're going to run 500mg of test, make sure you're running an anti-e like arimidex at .5mg EOD or .5mg ED (because we don't know how much he will bloat up) or
femera.

do you think 500 is too high for his first cycle, .....He wants to keep the winny to help on bloat since it doesnt convert and for the strength gains. Oh yeah running Ldex 2-11 .05ed my bad

 

[SmooThy5464]

If you want to gain 20 pounds on this cycle I would take out the Winny. It's not a mass builder. Save for a cutting cycle.

Also I would take out the EQ and just do more Test or get a hold of some Suspension. EQ is not needed if your doing Deca.

Just keep your cycle simple with Test, DBOL, and Deca

1-10 500mg Test
1-6 50mg/ed Dbol
1-10 400mg Deca

my thoughts exactly although maybe 30-40 mg dbol ED and u could easily lose the deca and stick to just test/dbol at same doseages (test/dbol always fun for a first)