Bro's...to front load or not?

[scarylarry]

This is my question to you guys. I will be doing a test cyp and winny cycle soon. I will be using 2 10ml/200mg bottles of ttoykko cyp but Iam not sure how to get the best bang for the amount I have. here are my thoughts

cycle 1

wk1 test 1200mg frontload
wk2-8 test at 400mg/week

cycle 2

wk1-8 test at 500mg/wk

cycle 3

wk1-10 test at 400mg/wk

what should I do?

 

[2Thick]

I am totally against front-loading. I think that it leads to more sides and not enough of an increase in gains to warrant its use.

I know that Andy13 wrote an elegant post about the wonders of front-loading but I respectfully disagree.

I am still a fan of pyramiding to avoid sides.

 

[scarylarry]

2thichk what would you recommend then? would it be best to do a 1-10wk at 400mg/wk or 1-8wk at 500mg/wk. What kind of pyramid would you recommend. keep in mind I have a total of 4000mg of gear and that is it.

 

[duckman]

i recently fron loaded with cyp and deca sides werent all that bad except i found myself running out of both steroids 1 week shy of my calculations o well

only thing i didnt like about front loading are the 3 cc injections...
i was getting nots at the sight swelling and really red rash looking things.....i say dont front load ....its not that big of a deal...
go slow and get good absorption...

 

[2Thick]

Most people will not agree but I recommend a slight front load for test and a pyramid for most everything else.

I would go for the 10-week at 400mg as long as you can sustain a great diet and training routine for that long. Otherwise an 8-week cycle at 500mg will be better.

If this is your 10th or more cycle then the frontloading you have mentioned might be of some value. Otherwise, stick to the basics and save the fancy stuff for later when the basics are just not good enough.

 

[xmoulton508x]

It is quite possible that front loading could bring on more side effects.... but it's also true that you will get more gear into your system. I personally believe the sides of 1000mg a week and 500 a week aren't much different but the gains are noticably more with 1000mg. Just my opinion, I'm sure people will disagree. So i would say front load first.

 

[Zyglamail]

I am totally against front-loading. I think that it leads to more sides and not enough of an increase in gains to warrant its use.

Just an FYI, last cycle i did was simple fina at 75mg/eod and winny 50mg/ed. After three weeks I had very oily skin, dadruff like it was xmas, mild acne and achy joints from hell. No hair loss or prostate probs and no signs of gyno.

Current cycle was frontloaded 1200mg enth week 1-2 and frontloaded 1200mg enth week 1-2 then both dropped to 600mg/wk after that at which point I added tren at 75mg/ed. I have very slight oily skin and thats it. no probs with hair loss, prostate or gyno either. All in all this is a much better cycle than the previous one. While some people may not take large dose AAS as well on a frontload as I did, I see no complaints from those that are doing it. And I also started to nitice the effects of the eq/test in the end of the second week.

only thing i didnt like about front loading are the 3 cc injections

The best way to get around large volume injections is shoot more often.

Anyways guys, everyone is entitle to thier own opinion, I just wanted to share my frontload info with ya.