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jloflexin405

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What is everyones opinions and experience with British Dragon products? I was thinkg about running their Masterbol (masteron) in the future. Thanks in advance guys.
 
Their organization is top notch from top to bottom. They are in touch with the old philosophy of Quality over Quantity. They are reputable and dependable, and their business is important to them. Two Thumbs Up.
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
Their organization is top notch from top to bottom. They are in touch with the old philosophy of Quality over Quantity. They are reputable and dependable, and their business is important to them. Two Thumbs Up.
You cant say it better! Its reputable company which indeed care about customers! I`ve seen few lab tests and was very surprised! All their products came overdosed! Even in B. Llevellyn book "Anabolics 2004" their Boldenone was tested as 208mg per 1ml. Slightly overdosed.
 
The new products being added to the range (Primo, Parabolin, Turinabol etc etc) offer a range that i thought we would not see again

Wrongun!
 
excellent news! I have had poor results compared to other UG on boldabol and decabol, but I am now curious to try them again with all these positive comments. I am starting to wonder if they were faked . . .

My experience was negative, but I wouldn't attach much to that though, from what I read here.
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
Their organization is top notch from top to bottom. They are in touch with the old philosophy of Quality over Quantity. They are reputable and dependable, and their business is important to them. Two Thumbs Up.


Well Said!
 
I recently started using their EQ and Test Cyp and haven't had any bad reactions yet such as fever and other things I've heard that fake gear can do. I haven't been on long enough to really see what their about. Yes they are a little most costly then others, but I take quality over cost anyday when you are talking about my body.
 
Im using theyre Anavar just now but have only been on for a few days so cant form an opinion yet, I did try theyre Anadrol before and thought it was good. A quality UG lab.
 
jloflexin405 said:
Are their proucts faked often. I have never dealt with BD.

this may be old news to you guys, but here goes:

Actually it seems that there's fake BD out there. Only been reported in Europe as far as I can see, but be aware.
For those of you who understand danish:
http://www.bodyhouse.dk/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12200&sessionID=3974FC20587744F985B5AF8B1D953091

The items are:
Laurobolon
Deca Nubol
Nubol
Testolone
Testoenant
Testocylone
Boldesten-100
Trenolone
Stanozolone
Meprobolon
Nandrolone-250

They are supposed to be new BD products, which hasn't been announced officially yet (which is bs). People who has seen the labes on these, say that they are 99,9% similar to the originals.

look out, and stay safe
 
Thom said:
this may be old news to you guys, but here goes:

Actually it seems that there's fake BD out there. Only been reported in Europe as far as I can see, but be aware.
For those of you who understand danish:
http://www.bodyhouse.dk/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12200&sessionID=3974FC20587744F985B5AF8B1D953091

The items are:
Laurobolon
Deca Nubol
Nubol
Testolone
Testoenant
Testocylone
Boldesten-100
Trenolone
Stanozolone
Meprobolon
Nandrolone-250

They are supposed to be new BD products, which hasn't been announced officially yet (which is bs). People who has seen the labes on these, say that they are 99,9% similar to the originals.

look out, and stay safe

so am i understanding correctly then that their d-bol 10mg and their anavar 10mg have not been widely faked?
 
Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
Good products but highly priced

Are BD the highest priced UG around?

I'm all for quality and customer service, but is the mark up worth it to you guys?

UG should never be expensive, whether you buy in bulk or not...

:chomp:
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

DIVISION said:
Are BD the highest priced UG around?

I'm all for quality and customer service, but is the mark up worth it to you guys?

UG should never be expensive, whether you buy in bulk or not...

:chomp:

anyone?

Bueller? Bueller????
 
Thom said:
this may be old news to you guys, but here goes:

Actually it seems that there's fake BD out there. Only been reported in Europe as far as I can see, but be aware.
For those of you who understand danish:
http://www.bodyhouse.dk/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12200&sessionID=3974FC20587744F985B5AF8B1D953091

The items are:
Laurobolon
Deca Nubol
Nubol
Testolone
Testoenant
Testocylone
Boldesten-100
Trenolone
Stanozolone
Meprobolon
Nandrolone-250

They are supposed to be new BD products, which hasn't been announced officially yet (which is bs). People who has seen the labes on these, say that they are 99,9% similar to the originals.

look out, and stay safe

Not fakes, just knock off products which pretend to be British Dragon. Do not use all those Bubols and other shit, BD have a web site sop just compare your stuff with the pics at their web site, you`ll be fine.
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

DIVISION said:
Are BD the highest priced UG around?

I'm all for quality and customer service, but is the mark up worth it to you guys?

UG should never be expensive, whether you buy in bulk or not...

I've never seen anyone sell injectables as high priced as BD does. Not only that, but I was forced to pay by western union which cost me an extra $60 in fees. Plus shipping from the UK. In the end, I got hosed a little. But I think everyone does when they're starting out. I now get quality stuff domestically at a fraction of the BD prices.

For example, from the list I got from BD about 7 months ago, a bottle of EQ200 mg was $90 not including shipping. I pay less than half of that now, for the same quality too. $90 + shipping for a bottle of EQ is absurd! If this last part of my post violates any rules please remove it. Or PM me and when I am on-line next I'll remove it myself. Thanks
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
I've never seen anyone sell injectables as high priced as BD does. Not only that, but I was forced to pay by western union which cost me an extra $60 in fees. Plus shipping from the UK. In the end, I got hosed a little. But I think everyone does when they're starting out. I now get quality stuff domestically at a fraction of the BD prices.

For example, from the list I got from BD about 7 months ago, a bottle of EQ200 mg was $90 not including shipping. I pay less than half of that now, for the same quality too. $90 + shipping for a bottle of EQ is absurd! If this last part of my post violates any rules please remove it. Or PM me and when I am on-line next I'll remove it myself. Thanks
Who cares how much they charge for their stuff if its working and great quality? Why in the hell you do not discuss BTG var which is probably 10times more expensive than Oxanabol and same quality?
 
Is the expense worth it?

Retabolil2 said:
Who cares how much they charge for their stuff if its working and great quality?

Why would you pay more for the same product all things being equal?

It's just being smart, bro....

Paying for reputation is a big mistake and will leave you broke in the long run.

:chomp:
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

DIVISION said:
Why would you pay more for the same product all things being equal?

It's just being smart, bro....

Paying for reputation is a big mistake and will leave you broke in the long run.

:chomp:

Cheap does not always equal smart. What price do you put on your health?

I would much prefer to pay more for a product knowing it is sterile and good quality.

So paying for a reputation could be smart????????????


Wrongun!
 
clarify....

Wrongun said:
Cheap does not always equal smart. What price do you put on your health?

I would much prefer to pay more for a product knowing it is sterile and good quality.

So paying for a reputation could be smart????????????

I've had my UG tested for quality assurance and it's 99.8% USP. Can't argue with that.

Considering the precautions I've taken, I'd say that my heath and money are both wisely provided for.

Once the sterility and quality issues are put to bed, it's just a matter of shopping and customer service and BD is just too expensive. You can only rely on your brandname for so long before people will find other sources.

That being said, if you love BD, by all means more power to ya'.

:chomp:
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

DIVISION said:
Why would you pay more for the same product all things being equal?

It's just being smart, bro....

Paying for reputation is a big mistake and will leave you broke in the long run.

:chomp:

Things are not equal bro. Galenika test enanthate turned underdosed, 180mg per aml instead of 250mg in severals batches... And I`ve seen BD lab tests, all products are overdosed. And I know the owner too, very trustworthy person. So in no way I`m going to buy QV or something else even if its cheaper.
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
I've never seen anyone sell injectables as high priced as BD does. Not only that, but I was forced to pay by western union which cost me an extra $60 in fees. Plus shipping from the UK. In the end, I got hosed a little. But I think everyone does when they're starting out. I now get quality stuff domestically at a fraction of the BD prices.

For example, from the list I got from BD about 7 months ago, a bottle of EQ200 mg was $90 not including shipping. I pay less than half of that now, for the same quality too. $90 + shipping for a bottle of EQ is absurd! If this last part of my post violates any rules please remove it. Or PM me and when I am on-line next I'll remove it myself. Thanks

BTW you should go to Thailand and buy some Danabolan at $17 per amp! :) Thats an UG parabolan copy! Extremely expensive!
 
Re: clarify....

DIVISION said:
I've had my UG tested for quality assurance and it's 99.8% USP. Can't argue with that.

Considering the precautions I've taken, I'd say that my heath and money are both wisely provided for.

Once the sterility and quality issues are put to bed, it's just a matter of shopping and customer service and BD is just too expensive. You can only rely on your brandname for so long before people will find other sources.

That being said, if you love BD, by all means more power to ya'.

:chomp:

So if you have to test each batch you get then cost of product + test is less than one vial of BD??? does not sound cost effective to me.

The point was i have 100% confidence in the production and quality assurance surrounding BD and so my choice (not everyones) is pharm grade and BD only. Yes you can get cheaper but at what cost and if i had to test each batch (which i would so as my health was catered for) then i am sure it would not be cost effective.

Bottom line is that it appears that in the USA Brit Drag products are more expensive than other UG labs. Basically it is user choice. the reasons i have state are mine and you choose to test your product. Bottom line it is user choice but BD is a great product IMHO and am also not aware that it is so much more expensive than QV etc

Wrongun!
 
Re: clarify....

Wrongun said:
So if you have to test each batch you get then cost of product + test is less than one vial of BD??? does not sound cost effective to me.

The point was i have 100% confidence in the production and quality assurance surrounding BD and so my choice (not everyones) is pharm grade and BD only. Yes you can get cheaper but at what cost and if i had to test each batch (which i would so as my health was catered for) then i am sure it would not be cost effective.

Bottom line is that it appears that in the USA Brit Drag products are more expensive than other UG labs. Basically it is user choice. the reasons i have state are mine and you choose to test your product. Bottom line it is user choice but BD is a great product IMHO and am also not aware that it is so much more expensive than QV etc

Wrongun!

When did I ever say I tested every batch? I have no idea how much QV products are, I don't use them.
 
DildoBaggins said:
I have tried their testabol depot and eq, seemed to work very well for me, I have a great source for them if you want email me

YES, Please PM me ...possibly the same place I use but never hurts to check it out. Thank you in advance.
 
Re: clarify....

DIVISION said:
When did I ever say I tested every batch? I have no idea how much QV products are, I don't use them.

You stated ''I've had my UG tested for quality assurance and it's 99.8% USP''

Now if you do not test every batch how do you know if the quality assurance is maintained at 99.8% USP

I thought this was the debate about cost v's quality. i stated that IMHO it was worth paying more for known quality (i.e. brand name). You sateted the above and made the comment how your health was well taken care of.

If you do not test every batch that comes from your UG lab (which could quite possible be someones kitchen for all you know) how do you know you are getting value for money and quality sterie product?

Beofre you jump down my throat i am aware of the Brit Drag set up and owners and so can be assured that there is a real lab with excellent quality assurance. This is why it has the brand name

Hope this clears the misunderstanding up

Wrongun!
 
Re: clarify....

DIVISION said:
When did I ever say I tested every batch? I have no idea how much QV products are, I don't use them.

P.S. when i mentioned QV i also put etc. This signifies similar so again i hope this clears up your misunderstanding of my post

Wrongun!
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

Retabolil2 said:
Who cares how much they charge for their stuff if its working and great quality?

Is that a joke? Who cares how much they charge? My wallet cares. Why would I pay over twice as much for the same product? The UG lab I use now has been tested on multiple occasions and every time came back slightly overdosed. So why would I use BD, a lab also with a good reputation, but one that charges twice as much for their products and I've never actually seen a lab result for? I'd have to be an idiot to continue to use BD considering the other options I have.

Why in the hell you do not discuss BTG var which is probably 10times more expensive than Oxanabol and same quality?

Come again? Sorry bro, that question didn't make any sense to me.

And I`ve seen BD lab tests, all products are overdosed.

I don't doubt this claim, but could you post a scan of the results? I'd like to see them as I mentioned before never seeing BD lab results. I've got scans of two labs results from the UG brand I am using now. Test Enanthate, label claims are the normal 250mg/ml, first batch came back at 278mg/ml and the second batch 324mg/ml.

And I know the owner too, very trustworthy person.

This must be why you're getting a little defensive over the fact I choose not to use BD products anymore.
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
Is that a joke? Who cares how much they charge? My wallet cares. Why would I pay over twice as much for the same product? The UG lab I use now has been tested on multiple occasions and every time came back slightly overdosed. So why would I use BD, a lab also with a good reputation, but one that charges twice as much for their products and I've never actually seen a lab result for? I'd have to be an idiot to continue to use BD considering the other options I have.



Come again? Sorry bro, that question didn't make any sense to me.



I don't doubt this claim, but could you post a scan of the results? I'd like to see them as I mentioned before never seeing BD lab results. I've got scans of two labs results from the UG brand I am using now. Test Enanthate, label claims are the normal 250mg/ml, first batch came back at 278mg/ml and the second batch 324mg/ml.



This must be why you're getting a little defensive over the fact I choose not to use BD products anymore.

Why don't you do a search for the BD lab reports there are plenty available
If your source is charging twice as much for BD than another lab then he is either pushing the alternative lab for his own interest or he is so far down the chain in BD.

As for your UG lab test results coming back at 324 mg/ml when it should be 250mg/ml then i would be concerned at their quality assurance. Basically that means it is 23% overdosed....not what i woulod call accurate, cost effective or good quality control. If they can get the dosages so wrong when it has a financial impact then what attention to they pay to sterility?

Bottom line we all have our personal health and financial constraints. In my experience BD is priced the same as most ''established and reputable UG labs). They will be and are entitled to be more expensive than the kitchen UG lab (for all the reasons that have been stated above) IMHO.

Bottom line is that price is not always the main deciding point of a purchase especially when it can effect your health IMHO.

No flame bro but PuddleMonkey if you are overjoyed at purchasing cheap product that is 23% overdosed when referencing the label then not sure how you can be assured of quality and sterility but again it is your choice. To flame Ret for what he was saying to state the results you have just enforces rets comments IMHO

Wrongun!
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

Wrongun said:
If your source is charging twice as much for BD than another lab then he is either pushing the alternative lab for his own interest or he is so far down the chain in BD.

The sources I am currently using don't sell BD products. When I was buying BD gear it was from 'THE SOURCE' himself. Just like now, I don't deal with middle men, I go directly through the source/lab for my products.

As for your UG lab test results coming back at 324 mg/ml when it should be 250mg/ml then i would be concerned at their quality assurance. Basically that means it is 23% overdosed....

Some of us like a little extra bang for our buck. When refering to Test Enanthate, 278 or 324 is a little extra bang IMO. Now when talking about someone like Orbit Labs overdosing their Var by 200% or whatever it was, thats a quality control issue!!!

Bottom line we all have our personal health and financial constraints. In my experience BD is priced the same as most ''established and reputable UG labs).

I disagree, I still say they are more expensive than ALL other UG lab prices I have seen anywhere!

No flame bro but PuddleMonkey if you are overjoyed at purchasing cheap product that is 23% overdosed when referencing the label then not sure how you can be assured of quality and sterility but again it is your choice.


You seem to forget one important thing... BD is a UG Lab just like any other. They can have sterility problems just like any other UG Lab. They can start scamming hundreds of people just like any other UG Lab. They can overdose and underdose just like any other UG Lab. You talk about them as if they are the almighty, they can do no wrong. The brand I happen to be refering to through all this is Zencall. I think if you do a search on AB, ASN, IBB, BDBB, AR, MM, OM, EA, PM, IC or any other body building forum you'll notice a trend; people trust Zencall products, people like Zencall products, people get results from Zencall products. In fact, I've yet to hear anyone complain about a Zencall product, and I read/post on a crapload of boards. So once again I have to ask myself, "why would I pay twice as much for BD?"

Wrongun, don't get me wrong, I like you, you seem like a good guy. And of course you're more than intitled to your opinion... no matter how wrong it may be :heart:

;)
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
The sources I am currently using don't sell BD products. When I was buying BD gear it was from 'THE SOURCE' himself. Just like now, I don't deal with middle men, I go directly through the source/lab for my products.



Some of us like a little extra bang for our buck. When refering to Test Enanthate, 278 or 324 is a little extra bang IMO. Now when talking about someone like Orbit Labs overdosing their Var by 200% or whatever it was, thats a quality control issue!!!



I disagree, I still say they are more expensive than ALL other UG lab prices I have seen anywhere!




You seem to forget one important thing... BD is a UG Lab just like any other. They can have sterility problems just like any other UG Lab. They can start scamming hundreds of people just like any other UG Lab. They can overdose and underdose just like any other UG Lab. You talk about them as if they are the almighty, they can do no wrong. The brand I happen to be refering to through all this is Zencall. I think if you do a search on AB, ASN, IBB, BDBB, AR, MM, OM, EA, PM, IC or any other body building forum you'll notice a trend; people trust Zencall products, people like Zencall products, people get results from Zencall products. In fact, I've yet to hear anyone complain about a Zencall product, and I read/post on a crapload of boards. So once again I have to ask myself, "why would I pay twice as much for BD?"

Wrongun, don't get me wrong, I like you, you seem like a good guy. And of course you're more than intitled to your opinion... no matter how wrong it may be :heart:

;)

This is the problem i an not wrong IMO which we are all entitled too.

I will not spend time doing seperate quotes but will try and show you the errors

If you bought BD from the man then you must know him very personnally as he has distibutors and as far as he recalls he has never heard of you. If you bought from the website then you will have also read that it was taken by another source and yes he was vey expensive. Anyway enough of that i am sure you are confident you are high up the chain.

You think 23% overdosed is a little more bang for your buck then sorry you are foolish. These are meds and not sweets. The science is accurate blood concentration levels so what is your limit??? 200% you quote. So are you saying if you buy an amp that states 250mg/ml and it is actually 500mg/ml without knowing you are happy and see that as a benefit. Back to your lab report then if you had planned a 500mg EW cycle you are actually taking 648mg/ml are you now saying that is good and ok as long as it does not reach the unaceptable 200%!!!

My final comment to answer your reply. Yes BD are an UG lab. But i am confident (which i have to be with any product that i intend to inject into me) that the operation is not run from someones kitchen and actually conducted in a true lab. AGAIN this is how i am confident of sterility and quality control issues. Where the scamming came into it i do not know have you someting you wish to share???? The lab does NOT sell direct but through distributors. Therefore yes the distributor can scam (similar to IP's) but not the lab.

I will again state (hopefully you will read this time) you can use whichever product you wish it is personal choice. The discussion here started with BD products. I like and use as do many others. You made a comment about never using due to cost (although it seems you have been ripped off before which i am sure hurts you) and i simply stated why apart fropm Pharm grade that is the only other med i will use. So where you aregumnent about Zenkall having a good rep comes from is irrelevant is it not unless you know the set up and are happy with unstable dosages?

Anyway to summarise PuddleMonkey you are a touch puddled yes

;)


Wrongun!
 
Guys, I didnt read through all these arguments. Here are the facts.

1. British Dragon has been around for A LONG TIME! They have proven themselves time and time again. They are a solid company, and pretty much everyone knows this.

2. They have been tested MANY times, and have NEVER failed a lab test that I am aware of. I have seen tests on there var and dbol, and know that there are many more out there.

3. One of the biggest things you have to consider here, is that they are not a "fly by night lab". There are tuns of UG labs out there, but how many of them last years and years like BD? Chances are you can get a decent product from any fly by night UG lab. These labs have not established themselves like BD has, and in a lot of cases, the people behind these labs get it, then get out, either when they make enough money, or their quality starts to go to shit, or they start scamming. YOu can bet whatever other UG company you may be using now, they wont be around in 2-3 years. BD will. BD serves users all over the world. Thats a big market to fill. Most fly by night new UG labs that people talk about here, are sold locally in gyms, and maybe off the net as well. The point is .. that 90% of them are in it for the short term. Do you know of any local UG lab that has been around for as long as BD? They all fold em some time or another.

4. Price: I have seen them sold expensively, and cheaply. All depends on your source. It comes down to the fact that no matter what you pay for it, you are going to get a quality product, from a quality lab, that has established themselves MANY times, and is in for the long haul. This is one of the few labs I would not even care about testing a prod from them. One of the other new labs popping up, I would definately want to see some tests, or some feedback before using them. BD's quality and reputation speak for themselves. I am with ret on this one. I personally dont mind spending a little extra cash to know that I am getting a quality product from one of the leading, longest lasting, and biggest UG labs, whos quality has never failed. Spending what ... an extra 20 bucks ... for a little piece of mind is well worth it in my mind. I would really like to try their injects some time. I have only tried the tabs so far, and they were great.

Mavy
 
You might have noticed that there is an amazingly huge drop in price between UG labs right now. Prods are extrememly cheap. This is a plot to for the cheapest labs to get the cheapest users money. My advice... dont go with the cheapest lab out there that offers you the cheapest gear. These are the labs more likely to cut corners. I will personally always opt for human grade gear first, followed by long time trusted UG after that. I am not looking to save an extra few bucks, to jeaprodise my health, or the quality of my cycles. Just becuase a new UG lab passes a few of their first tests dosent mean a whole hell of a lot. What it does mean to me is if you are a penny pincher when it comes to your body, and want to go with 1 of the new labs popping up, use them while they are new, while their quality is good, as this could change might quickly.

I guess that there will ALWAYS be two types of users.

Ones that want to save a buck. For whatever reason, ...students, poor, broke, whatever. Then there will be the ones who dont mind coughing up the extra cash for quality product with an established reputation, like Human grade gear for example. These two types of people dont just buy their gear like this, but its generally everything ... cars, clothes, food etc. Some dont need peice of mind, and some dont really care, as long as they are getting a cheap prod. To each their own I guess.
 
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Well summarised Mavy and agreed each to their own as there is a valid debate for both ways

Wrongun!
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

Wrongun said:
If you bought BD from the man then you must know him very personnally as he has distibutors and as far as he recalls he has never heard of you.

He did not sell to me under the name puddlemonkey.


If you bought from the website then you will have also read that it was taken by another source and yes he was vey expensive. Anyway enough of that i am sure you are confident you are high up the chain.

No, the BD website is not an ordering site. And yes, I am confident enough to know I was high enough on the chain to be dealing with him. I know how his operation works (payments/shipping/etc) but I wont go into detail on that in the open forum.


The science is accurate blood concentration levels so what is your limit??? 200% you quote. So are you saying if you buy an amp that states 250mg/ml and it is actually 500mg/ml without knowing you are happy and see that as a benefit.

Wow, you really like to twist the facts don't you?

Where the scamming came into it i do not know have you someting you wish to share???? The lab does NOT sell direct but through distributors. Therefore yes the distributor can scam (similar to IP's) but not the lab.

Being a UG lab there is a risk of turning scammer just like any other lab. Yes, they have a good rep and have been around for awhile. But no, this does not make them exempt from ever going scammer.


The discussion here started with BD products. I like and use as do many others. You made a comment about never using due to cost (although it seems you have been ripped off before which i am sure hurts you)

I did not make a comment about never using BD. I've purchased and used BD in the past as I've stated, but not longer as I can get a trusted quality product for a fraction of the price. That has been my point all along.


So where you aregumnent about Zenkall having a good rep comes from is irrelevant is it not unless you know the set up and are happy with unstable dosages?

First, its Zencall, no 'k'. Second, So you're telling me you've been inside the BD lab before huh? I find that a little hard to believe. Maybe you've got some pics from your field trip?
 
Mavy said:
I guess that there will ALWAYS be two types of users.

Ones that want to save a buck. For whatever reason, ...students, poor, broke, whatever. Then there will be the ones who dont mind coughing up the extra cash for quality product with an established reputation, like Human grade gear for example. These two types of people dont just buy their gear like this, but its generally everything ... cars, clothes, food etc. Some dont need peice of mind, and some dont really care, as long as they are getting a cheap prod. To each their own I guess.

Actually, I dont fall under this "save a buck" catagory if you were refering to me. And if you weren't disregard the rest of this. I buy in bulk, and when I do, I get some amazing prices. But even my non-bulk prices are far better than BD, which has been my point from the beginning, BD are too expensive. As for the cheap cars, clothes, food, etc. I'm 28 years old, a homeowner, and I drive a Lexus SC400. I am not cheap, nor am I a poor college student. But I also don't like to get screwed, and when I buy BD I feel I am.
 
Ok, I need to go to work soon.... let me put it a different way so we can all move on. I feel BD are a little spendy. And I choose other options for gear. BD are however, a very good company with a quality product. If you choose to buy BD products, you are getting top of the line UG sauce and will be very happy with your results. If you do not get results from BD gear, its unlikely the gear itself, and diet/workout should be looked at first.

Hope this was a little better. I know I can come across as an ass sometimes, and I'm trying to work on my internet politeness.
 
Puddlemonkey i am tired of arguing with you:

1) you have not bought direct from the BD lab as it is through distributors. He has no payment info etc open board or not, that simple so sorry to burst your bubble of grandier.

2) How have i twisted facts i have quoted from you and teh examples you used. The figure was 23% YOU stated. Or maybe you find it hard to say i have a point?

3) Nowhere did i say you had not used. My statement was never using ....implying again

4) Apologies for my spelling mistake i will try my hardest to rectify in future.

5) My knowledge is adequate of the lab. Yes i have left the UK on occasions and continue to do so. As for pictures then no i have not got nor do i think are relevant. The point is from my statement ( i will quote exactly what i said to refresh your memory ''i am confident (which i have to be with any product that i intend to inject into me) that the operation is not run from someones kitchen and actually conducted in a true lab''

Of that i am confident and have assured myself.

I hope you are clearer now of what i have put and written i have tried to keep it simple.

Not sure where you get confused (apart from your maths and overdosing) but hey show me where i twisted facts please as i am interested as was always quite goos with maths!!!!

Wrongun!
 
Re: Is the expense worth it?

PuddleMonkey said:
Is that a joke? Who cares how much they charge? My wallet cares. Why would I pay over twice as much for the same product? The UG lab I use now has been tested on multiple occasions and every time came back slightly overdosed. So why would I use BD, a lab also with a good reputation, but one that charges twice as much for their products and I've never actually seen a lab result for? I'd have to be an idiot to continue to use BD considering the other options I have.



Come again? Sorry bro, that question didn't make any sense to me.



I don't doubt this claim, but could you post a scan of the results? I'd like to see them as I mentioned before never seeing BD lab results. I've got scans of two labs results from the UG brand I am using now. Test Enanthate, label claims are the normal 250mg/ml, first batch came back at 278mg/ml and the second batch 324mg/ml.



This must be why you're getting a little defensive over the fact I choose not to use BD products anymore.
I don`t mind you using QV or anyhting else bro :) Its up to you. Also I do not recommend you a good source for BD products :) But I`m trying to explain that this company deserve much more trust than any other UG lab in my opinion. Also their stuff is not the highest priced around. Go get some Body Research Danabolan at $17 per vial in Thailand if you want. And trust me some wallets pay for this stuff! BTW all their products are top notch too in my opinion.
There are lots of lab results posted on the boards, according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004 their Boldabol is overdosed 208mg/1ml.
BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake. I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards, everyone would think its selfpromotion. But no one ever seen underdosed BD stuff, thats a fact :)
 
Wrongun said:
(quotes from various parts of this thread)

As for your UG lab test results coming back at 324 mg/ml when it should be 250mg/ml then i would be concerned at their quality assurance. Basically that means it is 23% overdosed....not what i woulod call accurate, cost effective or good quality control. If they can get the dosages so wrong when it has a financial impact then what attention to they pay to sterility?

No flame bro but PuddleMonkey if you are overjoyed at purchasing cheap product that is 23% overdosed when referencing the label then not sure how you can be assured of quality and sterility

You think 23% overdosed is a little more bang for your buck then sorry you are foolish. These are meds and not sweets.

How have i twisted facts i have quoted from you and teh examples you used. The figure was 23% YOU stated. Or maybe you find it hard to say i have a point?

Wrongun!


Retabolil2 said:
There are lots of lab results posted on the boards, according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004 their Boldabol is overdosed 208mg/1ml.
BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their (BD) deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml.

Wow, the same exact overdosing with BD Deca as Zencall had with Test Enanthate. This pretty much speaks for itself, huh Wrongun?

I await my apology ;)
 
Ret, you're a good guy and I totally respect you. I am fully aware of your ties to BD. We each have our own hidden agenda when it comes to gear, and I wish you the best. Once again I'd like to end the bickering on this thread, and refer back to what I said a few posts earlier:

puddlemonkey said:
I feel BD are a little spendy. I choose other options for gear. BD are however, a very good company with a quality product. If you choose to buy BD products, you are getting top of the line UG sauce and will be very happy with your results. If you do not get results from BD gear, its unlikely the gear itself, and diet/workout should be looked at first.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Wow, the same exact overdosing with BD Deca as Zencall had with Test Enanthate. This pretty much speaks for itself, huh Wrongun?

I await my apology ;)

No apology but some simple maths my friend

BD eq = 200mg / ml test = 208mg/ml = total of 4% NOT 23%

I find +-5% aceptable i still await your acceptyability as you seem not to have replied to my thread???

Ret then states ''BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake''

YOU OMITTED THE BIT I guess they made a mistake as they are different form all other reports hence not seen or authentisised.

This preety much speaks for itself huh, puddlemonkey

i await my apology or will accept you will revist basic maths again it will make debate far more constructive and useful.

Have a great day

Wrongun!
 
Why not just go with powders instead of whatever ug lab. You get 2 grams tested, and with the 100 grams left you are able to prepare good products (with known concentrations) for a couple of years. The cheapest and the most reliable IMO.
 
huh....

Wrongun said:
Now if you do not test every batch how do you know if the quality assurance is maintained at 99.8% USP If you do not test every batch that comes from your UG lab (which could quite possible be someones kitchen for all you know) how do you know you are getting value for money and quality sterie product?

I'm not giving you details on every fucking way I operate......let's just say that I don't test every single batch........but other people do so I don't have to test every batch. THink of it as a merry-go-round......with different people taking turns and sharing in the cost.

The tabs I get are not from any fucking kitchen......they're made w/ solid bonding fillers......no powdery cheap residue all over.....and they aren't crumbly like alot of UG shit these days. My UG is sterile, loyal and cheap.....and those are the only three things I give a fuck about.....

:lmao:.......while you pay double or triple what I pay......

:chomp:
 
Omfguuuuuuuu!

PuddleMonkey said:
Is that a joke? Who cares how much they charge?
My wallet cares. Why would I pay over twice as much for the same product?

:doublefi:........

QUOTE OF THE FUCKING MILLENIUM!!!!!

:lmao:

oh shit!!!! PuddleMonkey........you had me rollin' on the ground like a baby hyena with this shit!!!!!

:chomp:
 
Well this has certainly been quite a chat, just a few facts about British Dragon that should be noted:

1. 'British Dragon' originates from British Dispensary, you may have seen a British Dispensary 'Thai pinks' bottle and noticed the little red dragon emblem they put on all their products; initially people started counterfeiting those, then someone had this idea-either in Russia or Thailand, lets make a UG product called 'British Dragon' that way we can paddle in Dispensarys huge wake. 'British Dragon' will always be an underground lab because if it were not the very real British Dispensary would sue their ass.

2. There are AT LEAST 2 different UG labs of 'British Dragon'; one is Russian, the other Thai(orals)/Greek(injectables) the one that JoBu (on this thread) is talking about is (probably) the Russian one, the one that wrongun is talking about is the Thai/Greek. It's not fair to say which one is 'counterfeit' but I think they are both reasonably legit as far as quality. I'll give you a funny example: I was looking at this one web-site source once and they were selling the BD injectables, I confirmed that those injectables were being supplied by BDGreek (or at least some of them were), but the oral tablets that were listed on the site were clearly the Russian ones! So a single source was selling 2 different 'British Dragons'! LOL

The point is that with any UG lab you have to trust the source your getting them from; the guy your sending the WU to, that guy. A good way to do that is ask your source if he uses his own products, ask him what kind of cycle's he's run and maybe what he would recommend for you-if he has no clue as to what the hell your even talking about the I guess he's not really a bro, maybe he's just some guy that like to make money by selling whatever.

I totally disagree with wronguns assertion that you can be a UG lab and a real lab at the same time! because BD doesn't make them in a 'kitchen'; that little room in Greece or Russia or wherever where they make the 10ml bottles; they measure the materials and mix a larger quantity of the stuff and manually fill the 10ml bottles then they flip-top em, then they manually put the little labels on them. when doing it this way it's very tedious work but I'm sure they do everything they can to maintain quality and sterility-but mistakes happen. Someone just mentioned Body Research; it's expensive but it's totally automized, just recently the Thai FDA suspended Body Research for a month just because this minor indiscrepency-they were making AAS in the same facility they were making other drugs-apparently that was against the rules-but just the fact that they are subject to random inspections, where the inspect everything, from quality, to paperwork, to sterility-an organon or a body research, these products are 100% spot on; where a UG lab is pretty good, especially if it's a UG lab making orals, orals are easier because there is less room for mistakes, it's just the chemical, you don't have to filter or convert, as long as you just disperse the chemical evenly you got a top quality product..but with UG lab injecatbles there is more possibility that a mistake can be made during the process..

One last note about 10ml bottles, 10ml bottles are harder to get past US customs then amps, i think it's because amps are thinner, but clearlt the 10ml bottles get seized more than anything..
 
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don't hold me down!

DIVISION said:
:doublefi:........

QUOTE OF THE FUCKING MILLENIUM!!!!!

:lmao:

oh shit!!!! PuddleMonkey........you had me rollin' on the ground like a baby hyena with this shit!!!!!

:chomp:

Sorry....but that PuddleMonkey quote is still murdering meh!!!!

:lmao:
 
Wrongun said:
BD eq = 200mg / ml test = 208mg/ml = total of 4% NOT 23%

My god you're dense. Where did EQ come into this anyway? We were talking about the BD Deca and it testing at 324. Are you claiming that both SRCS tests done on the Deca and Tren are bogus? Wrong? Incorrect? Are you saying the people at this testing facility don't know what they are doing? Allow me to let you in on a little secret about UG labs. You see Corky, UG labs will have many labels printed up at one time. And these labels, even with the same batch number or expiration date printed on them, will be used for different batches of sauce that are made. Thats right, a hundred bottles could be made on Tuesday, and another hundred could be made on Friday, but the same labels will be used for both batches. This is how one bottle could test at 258mg/ml, and another one from the same company test at 324mg/ml. So, about that apology you owe me.... :qt:
 
Re: huh....

DIVISION said:
I'm not giving you details on every fucking way I operate......let's just say that I don't test every single batch........but other people do so I don't have to test every batch. THink of it as a merry-go-round......with different people taking turns and sharing in the cost.

The tabs I get are not from any fucking kitchen......they're made w/ solid bonding fillers......no powdery cheap residue all over.....and they aren't crumbly like alot of UG shit these days. My UG is sterile, loyal and cheap.....and those are the only three things I give a fuck about.....

:lmao:.......while you pay double or triple what I pay......

:chomp:

But how do you know or is it your own kitchen :qt:

Also not sure why you feel the need to use the word ''fucking'' are you a little stressed at the present LMFAO

Wrongun!
 
Re: huh....

Wrongun said:
But how do you know or is it your own kitchen :qt:

Also not sure why you feel the need to use the word ''fucking'' are you a little stressed at the present LMFAO

Nah.......if I was making my own gear, I'd be spending even less...about 1/4 of what you pay for you're "quality" BD gear.

Evidently you still haven't grasped that buying in bulk saves you alot.

:lmao:
 
PuddleMonkey said:
My god you're dense. Where did EQ come into this anyway? We were talking about the BD Deca and it testing at 324. Are you claiming that both SRCS tests done on the Deca and Tren are bogus? Wrong? Incorrect? Are you saying the people at this testing facility don't know what they are doing? Allow me to let you in on a little secret about UG labs. You see Corky, UG labs will have many labels printed up at one time. And these labels, even with the same batch number or expiration date printed on them, will be used for different batches of sauce that are made. Thats right, a hundred bottles could be made on Tuesday, and another hundred could be made on Friday, but the same labels will be used for both batches. This is how one bottle could test at 258mg/ml, and another one from the same company test at 324mg/ml. So, about that apology you owe me.... :qt:

You are now annoying as you refuse to read what is in front of you. It appears you selectively miss sections as as to make yourself feel better.

for the last time and please feel free to read this time

Form Ret

Boldabol THAT IS EQ you HENCE MY STATEMENT

I then also quoted Ret who states they myust be wrong and the repriots were never published or athenmtised so were they wrong? incorrect whot the fuck knows as they have never been seen. The rest of the reports have been and are within MY (please note not yours) 5% range

Now i have kept this really short so i do not lose your limited concentration.

Reports posted, authetisised and discussed are within 5%. Boldabol is EQ and so please read above and try and keep up.
The Decca reports have not been seen and ret stated they could have been wrong as not published nor authentised so until that is done i can not comment (although sure you will refuse to read the rest and continue with this one as there is no proof either way).

Now we have got that clear ''corky'' (what ever the fuck that means but like to think it amuses you and your school friends''. Now i am not looking for an apology as this board is about debate. Debate means there is no real right or wrong just differeing of opinions. To discuss those opinions you do need to be factual and also you need to listen / read all and not just the bits you want to.

Now hopefully you have brought yourself up to speed we can move on.

Wrongun!

Please if you intend to reply please do me the courtesy of reading all the text as it is labourous going over the same points do you not agree. I also have no wish to make you look silly as spellings etc are part of posting and not fully proof reading but hey this is meant to be fun and educational. So please note Boldabol = EQ

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Boldabol THAT IS EQ you HENCE MY STATEMENT

You keep going back to the EQ results. I know what EQ is doof, I'm refering to the SRCS results on the Deca that was 324mg/ml. I was never talking about EQ to start with. Ret said, "SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml." He went on to say, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards."

So please explain to me again why its ok to use a British Dragon product that is overdosed by 23% but I should stay clear of a Zencall product that is overdosed the same?
 
PuddleMonkey said:
You keep going back to the EQ results. I know what EQ is doof, I'm refering to the SRCS results on the Deca that was 324mg/ml. I was never talking about EQ to start with. Ret said, "SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml." He went on to say, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards."

So please explain to me again why its ok to use a British Dragon product that is overdosed by 23% but I should stay clear of a Zencall product that is overdosed the same?

Look ''doof'' (what do they teach you in school over there but hopefully it appeals to you)

You stated (i will quote so as not to upset your selective reading again)

''Where did EQ come into this anyway''

Because and i will quote Ret ''There are lots of lab results posted on the boards, according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004 their Boldabol is overdosed 208mg/1ml''

I used this example as published vivible and authenticated

In summary ''doof'' this is why i used the facts to set my example. Again this time could have been saved if you would spend the time to read properly.

OK as for the other results and i will quote ALL of Ret AGAIN for you as you seem to miss the relevant part (it is relevant as only he has the results and they have not been viewed or authenticated. All other independent tests have shown within the range as far as we know and will refer back to the EQ test according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004)

Ret stated ''BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake''

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAST SENTANCE. If this is true or not i can not establish (not can you) as he (Ret) is the only one who knows:

1) if the tests exist
2) Who conducted them (independant or lab checking quality)
3) if they were accurate (authentic)

Without this knowledge then i have used the authenticated facts and figures issued.

Now come on even to the simple ''dooff'' you must now understand as to where the EQ (which is Boldabol so we have no misunderstanding there). This should also show why my feelings are such.

Again bottom line it is personal choice and with the benefit of redeuced financial constraints you do have more of a choice and can offset more of the risk (IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ONE WHICH I DO)

To summarise again i live in the UK where our laws surrounding AAS are far more ''user friendly'' and pharm grade is cost effective and available. If i require to use a product that is not readily available in pharm grade then MY choice is Brit Dragon for the reasons above (and again cost effective and available but current UK laws will have a bearing on that as i am sure you can appreciate). The same can be said for your choice (obviously not knowing your financial situation or what other formula you require to make your choice). The debate was why we chose to select a certain product. You stated cost and being overdosed as benefits. I debate being that much overdosed is not a benefit.

Now if you do wish to continue this debate then please read the post and be constructive. We can not use IMHO tests that have not been seen, aithenticated and has the opinion of the person who has them they there are wrong (for whatever reason and no details available).

If not then i really do think we have beaten this to death and it comes back to personal choice.

Happy reading (please read all of it and if you are intent on quoting please quote all)

Wrongun!
 
georgie24 said:
zencall has a solid rep!! and a loyal base!! who ever says steer clear of zencall is talking out there ass

Noone is actually saying that are they?

Again personal choice the debate was cost of Brit Drag.

Wrongun!
 
One reason is because then you have to buy powders, and some people who live in the USA are reluctant to do that because when they have a final product for consumption sent ot their house, it's not such a big deal if it gets seized, just get a seizure notice for attempting to get personal use gear, if it's powder-thats a little more risky-they might think your making something to sell it like your trying to make money off of it, or dealing it-then they might start eyeing you-so some people prefer to play it safe and just pay a little more ofr the finished product, also that way they don't have to go through the hassle of making stuff and they don't have to buy the lab equipment.

theslime said:
Why not just go with powders instead of whatever ug lab. You get 2 grams tested, and with the 100 grams left you are able to prepare good products (with known concentrations) for a couple of years. The cheapest and the most reliable IMO.
 
XxPhantoMxX said:
Well this has certainly been quite a chat, just a few facts about British Dragon that should be noted:

1. 'British Dragon' originates from British Dispensary, you may have seen a British Dispensary 'Thai pinks' bottle and noticed the little red dragon emblem they put on all their products; initially people started counterfeiting those, then someone had this idea-either in Russia or Thailand, lets make a UG product called 'British Dragon' that way we can paddle in Dispensarys huge wake. 'British Dragon' will always be an underground lab because if it were not the very real British Dispensary would sue their ass.

2. There are AT LEAST 2 different UG labs of 'British Dragon'; one is Russian, the other Thai(orals)/Greek(injectables) the one that JoBu (on this thread) is talking about is (probably) the Russian one, the one that wrongun is talking about is the Thai/Greek. It's not fair to say which one is 'counterfeit' but I think they are both reasonably legit as far as quality. I'll give you a funny example: I was looking at this one web-site source once and they were selling the BD injectables, I confirmed that those injectables were being supplied by BDGreek (or at least some of them were), but the oral tablets that were listed on the site were clearly the Russian ones! So a single source was selling 2 different 'British Dragons'! LOL

The point is that with any UG lab you have to trust the source your getting them from; the guy your sending the WU to, that guy. A good way to do that is ask your source if he uses his own products, ask him what kind of cycle's he's run and maybe what he would recommend for you-if he has no clue as to what the hell your even talking about the I guess he's not really a bro, maybe he's just some guy that like to make money by selling whatever.

I totally disagree with wronguns assertion that you can be a UG lab and a real lab at the same time! because BD doesn't make them in a 'kitchen'; that little room in Greece or Russia or wherever where they make the 10ml bottles; they measure the materials and mix a larger quantity of the stuff and manually fill the 10ml bottles then they flip-top em, then they manually put the little labels on them. when doing it this way it's very tedious work but I'm sure they do everything they can to maintain quality and sterility-but mistakes happen. Someone just mentioned Body Research; it's expensive but it's totally automized, just recently the Thai FDA suspended Body Research for a month just because this minor indiscrepency-they were making AAS in the same facility they were making other drugs-apparently that was against the rules-but just the fact that they are subject to random inspections, where the inspect everything, from quality, to paperwork, to sterility-an organon or a body research, these products are 100% spot on; where a UG lab is pretty good, especially if it's a UG lab making orals, orals are easier because there is less room for mistakes, it's just the chemical, you don't have to filter or convert, as long as you just disperse the chemical evenly you got a top quality product..but with UG lab injecatbles there is more possibility that a mistake can be made during the process..

One last note about 10ml bottles, 10ml bottles are harder to get past US customs then amps, i think it's because amps are thinner, but clearlt the 10ml bottles get seized more than anything..

Actually there is no russian British Dragon in this world. One russian dealer has stolen BD name and used it to sell stuff made in China by C&K. Their products are well known and trusted but some smart russian dealers prefer to sell it under BD name to make more money! Same situation with so called Hubei stuff. Its being made in China and blistered in Russia, hubei huangshi doesn`t even exist!
 
It should also be noted that the British Dragon name has been used to register some false web sites (e.g. britishdragon.net and some others).

Most likely same person as per Rets comments but not known who exactly.

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
It should also be noted that the British Dragon name has been used to register some false web sites (e.g. britishdragon.net and some others).

Most likely same person as per Rets comments but not known who exactly.

Wrongun!
Yes same person.
 
georgie24 said:
zencall has a solid rep!! and a loyal base!! who ever says steer clear of zencall is talking out there ass


Wrongun said:
Noone is actually saying that are they?

Again personal choice the debate was cost of Brit Drag.


Really Wrongy? Well then, what exactly did you mean by this statement?


Wrongun said:
As for your UG lab test results coming back at 324 mg/ml when it should be 250mg/ml then i would be concerned at their quality assurance. Basically that means it is 23% overdosed....not what i woulod call accurate, cost effective or good quality control.


Or this one maybe?


Wrongun said:
if you are overjoyed at purchasing cheap product that is 23% overdosed when referencing the label then not sure how you can be assured of quality and sterility


Or how about...


Wrongun said:
You think 23% overdosed is a little more bang for your buck then sorry you are foolish. These are meds and not sweets.

And of course we wont even go back to the fact that BD had some Deca that tested out at 324mg/ml as well, the same overdosing % as Zencalls Test Enanthate.
 
Wrongun said:
OK as for the other results and i will quote ALL of Ret AGAIN for you as you seem to miss the relevant part (it is relevant as only he has the results and they have not been viewed or authenticated. All other independent tests have shown within the range as far as we know and will refer back to the EQ test according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004)

Ret stated ''BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake''

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAST SENTANCE. If this is true or not i can not establish (not can you) as he (Ret) is the only one who knows:

1) if the tests exist
2) Who conducted them (independant or lab checking quality)
3) if they were accurate (authentic)

Finish your quote, don't forget the next sentence where Ret said, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards." So basically up to this point you have:
~ Bashed the reputable Zencall name
~ In a round about way called Ret a liar
~ Wasted a bunch of my time

Have a nice day!
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Finish your quote, don't forget the next sentence where Ret said, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards." So basically up to this point you have:
~ Bashed the reputable Zencall name
~ In a round about way called Ret a liar
~ Wasted a bunch of my time

Have a nice day!

You really are not that clever are you??? how many times have i got to ask you to read (do you have trouble doing that?) and here was me thinking maths was not actually your strong point!!!

You are boring me now as i constantly pick you up on your innacuracies and you chose to ignore or maybe can't reply. You continue to twist things to try and convince yourself (again you quote and leave of the main part so as to try and twist even though i put in CAPS to bring to your attention)

So basically you are boring and have nothing to offer.

Still at least you know that boldobol is EQ now so you have left with an increase to your knowledge. I on the other hand have learnt the word ''doof''

Have a great day (an feel free to spread your new found knwoledge of EQ LMFAO)

Wrongun!
 
XxPhantoMxX said:
Well this has certainly been quite a chat, just a few facts about British Dragon that should be noted:

1. 'British Dragon' originates from British Dispensary, you may have seen a British Dispensary 'Thai pinks' bottle and noticed the little red dragon emblem they put on all their products; initially people started counterfeiting those, then someone had this idea-either in Russia or Thailand, lets make a UG product called 'British Dragon' that way we can paddle in Dispensarys huge wake. 'British Dragon' will always be an underground lab because if it were not the very real British Dispensary would sue their ass.

2. There are AT LEAST 2 different UG labs of 'British Dragon'; one is Russian, the other Thai(orals)/Greek(injectables) the one that JoBu (on this thread) is talking about is (probably) the Russian one, the one that wrongun is talking about is the Thai/Greek. It's not fair to say which one is 'counterfeit' but I think they are both reasonably legit as far as quality. I'll give you a funny example: I was looking at this one web-site source once and they were selling the BD injectables, I confirmed that those injectables were being supplied by BDGreek (or at least some of them were), but the oral tablets that were listed on the site were clearly the Russian ones! So a single source was selling 2 different 'British Dragons'! LOL

The point is that with any UG lab you have to trust the source your getting them from; the guy your sending the WU to, that guy. A good way to do that is ask your source if he uses his own products, ask him what kind of cycle's he's run and maybe what he would recommend for you-if he has no clue as to what the hell your even talking about the I guess he's not really a bro, maybe he's just some guy that like to make money by selling whatever.

I totally disagree with wronguns assertion that you can be a UG lab and a real lab at the same time! because BD doesn't make them in a 'kitchen'; that little room in Greece or Russia or wherever where they make the 10ml bottles; they measure the materials and mix a larger quantity of the stuff and manually fill the 10ml bottles then they flip-top em, then they manually put the little labels on them. when doing it this way it's very tedious work but I'm sure they do everything they can to maintain quality and sterility-but mistakes happen. Someone just mentioned Body Research; it's expensive but it's totally automized, just recently the Thai FDA suspended Body Research for a month just because this minor indiscrepency-they were making AAS in the same facility they were making other drugs-apparently that was against the rules-but just the fact that they are subject to random inspections, where the inspect everything, from quality, to paperwork, to sterility-an organon or a body research, these products are 100% spot on; where a UG lab is pretty good, especially if it's a UG lab making orals, orals are easier because there is less room for mistakes, it's just the chemical, you don't have to filter or convert, as long as you just disperse the chemical evenly you got a top quality product..but with UG lab injecatbles there is more possibility that a mistake can be made during the process..

One last note about 10ml bottles, 10ml bottles are harder to get past US customs then amps, i think it's because amps are thinner, but clearlt the 10ml bottles get seized more than anything..

It does not suprise me that you disagree nor that you are wrong about the Russian lab because you are not female at all are you????

You are actually Paperbolix the well known scammer!!!!!!!!!

You have your own gripe with Brit Dragon don't you post the website fiasco???

Strange how you keep popping up everywhere

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Strange how you keep popping up everywhere

Wrongun!
even stranger how you keep popping up anytime british dragon or papervar are mentioned . maybe some sort of vested interest in those two particular products. in fact i have even heard rumours that you are not only in partnership with mister feline , but you are in fact the kitty himself .
 
bananabol said:
even stranger how you keep popping up anytime british dragon or papervar are mentioned . maybe some sort of vested interest in those two particular products. in fact i have even heard rumours that you are not only in partnership with mister feline , but you are in fact the kitty himself .

LMFAO Paperbolix, powerdragon, XxPhantoMxX and now bananabol you are exposed as the scammer and then try and turn it. You know better than anyone as you are in the same country as BD and the kitty that it is not true and also others that have known the Kitty for some time can testify to that LOL

Lets talk more about your scamming antics as i am sure there are quite a few that are still waiting (even when you took over the Brit Drag website for some time and started issuing orders (buit not actually sending) until control was retaken.

You have been banned from this site more times than i can remeber (and most of the other sites). Does it not get boring keep re-registering using different proxies etc?

Wrongun!
 
Re: clarify....

DIVISION said:
... my heath and money are both wisely provided for.

Once the sterility and quality issues are put to bed, it's just a matter of shopping and customer service and BD is just too expensive.


Yep, heath is important, but maybe you need a better source on BD? Perhaps you have too many middle men between you and a supplier? It is good stuff, I know it tests good. I have sent stuff myself and I have seen test results from bros I actually know and trust. Maybe you have not found a good source who doesn't have to rip you off to turn a profit?

Hang in there, but quit saying they are "SOOOOOO EXPENSIVE". Check out the oral line. :qt:

BTW, It cost more to run and operate and manage a real lab. There is a difference between a lab versus some dudes garage in Ohio. BD injectables cost more than the injectables from Mexico where labor is like $.02 a day. You dont have to worry about quality, the powder or "bad" batches, you can trust the BD name. Most of us know that.

If you dont KNOW, then you dont NEED to KNOW.
 
BTW, You can get good prices if you have good sources. If you have middlemen between you and the distributors, you will always pay too much.

Just the fact PuddleNuts said "I deal directly with the SORCE" proves he is an idiot to those of us who know a little somethin about BD. As soon as I saw he typed that, I knew he was an ass.

Again, dont blame BD for your rediculous high prices, supply & demand = $$. Besides that, I know for a fact you can get good deals on the BD Oral Line, just ask around but dont be bashing BD because you have an "Agenda". :rolleyes:

Who said their clen sucks? jeesh.
 
I wasn't saying anything bad about british dragon, I said it was good, just stateing facts to help inform people, I am going to request this thread be locked as wrongun has now violated the rules with a source post, and that source is no scammer and everyone knows it, wrongun you argue and attack everyone, get help
 
XxPhantoMxX said:
I wasn't saying anything bad about british dragon, I said it was good, just stateing facts to help inform people, I am going to request this thread be locked as wrongun has now violated the rules with a source post, and that source is no scammer and everyone knows it, wrongun you argue and attack everyone, get help

I do not need help as you found out when you last tried with your partner to threaten me.

If you were so honest etc why have you been banned from most boards under the names of Paperbolix, powerdragon to name but two. Difference is your real name never changes does it? Also why do you have to keep creating alters to get your point across.

The best bit is you now claim to be female (i know there are a lot of men/girls in Thai and know you are skinny but hey what ever floats your boat LOL). Would you like to be called Lorretta from now on LMFAO

Wrongun!
 
XxPhantoMxX said:
I wasn't saying anything bad about british dragon, I said it was good, just stateing facts to help inform people, I am going to request this thread be locked as wrongun has now violated the rules with a source post, and that source is no scammer and everyone knows it, wrongun you argue and attack everyone, get help



lol ... paperbolix is no scammer eh?? lmfao ....

I did not know that powderdragon was paperbolix either. The guy just keeps trying and trying ...
 
Mavy said:
lol ... paperbolix is no scammer eh?? lmfao ....

I did not know that powderdragon was paperbolix either. The guy just keeps trying and trying ...

Oh it is definately him 100%. The other alter of bananabol is again him or his partner ''C''. Strange how all his 6 posts refer to either paper or BD LOL

As you say Mavy yes they keep trying and really do believe that all should be ok now even though they took bro's hard earned.

Noi wonder he does not like BD when his supply as a distributor was stopped due to him using the Brit Drag website for sales which was prohibited AND to add injury to insult he scammed from it. Brit Drag had to make good so as to keep their rep but people who ordered direct were not so lucky.

Also why would he keep getting banned if all was ok?

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
It does not suprise me that you disagree nor that you are wrong about the Russian lab because you are not female at all are you????

You are actually Paperbolix the well known scammer!!!!!!!!!

You have your own gripe with Brit Dragon don't you post the website fiasco???

Strange how you keep popping up everywhere

Wrongun!

Well said bro!
 
XxPhantoMxX said:
I wasn't saying anything bad about british dragon, I said it was good, just stateing facts to help inform people, I am going to request this thread be locked as wrongun has now violated the rules with a source post, and that source is no scammer and everyone knows it, wrongun you argue and attack everyone, get help


NO YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PB is a scammer, I was first to report this news months ago, and the mods here are on board & KNOW PB is a scammer. Not only a selective scammer, but a thief and a liar. ANYONE who is up to speed knows PB is STAY AWAY.

Wrongun, is a respected vet in this community. Who is this Phantom Newb to be calling out Wrongun, and then report PB is a good source? You are either PBolix himself or a dumbass newbie who doesn't know anything about current status on sources. You obviously dont realize Wrongun is a respected memebr of this community.

Once banned always banned, and PB has been banned a couple of times as I recall. If you are PB I doubt the PLat will save your scamming ass. I hope your get banned you are a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paperbolix has reared his ugly head Mods...

As soon as he is banned, I would be more than happy to sponsor a non plat to go plat to make up for the loss of his scamming funds. Someone PM me when this turd gets banned, so I can get a good bro a PLat account.

Take out the trash please :lightning
 
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