British Drangon Opinions

[Mavy]

Guys, I didnt read through all these arguments. Here are the facts.

1. British Dragon has been around for A LONG TIME! They have proven themselves time and time again. They are a solid company, and pretty much everyone knows this.

2. They have been tested MANY times, and have NEVER failed a lab test that I am aware of. I have seen tests on there var and dbol, and know that there are many more out there.

3. One of the biggest things you have to consider here, is that they are not a "fly by night lab". There are tuns of UG labs out there, but how many of them last years and years like BD? Chances are you can get a decent product from any fly by night UG lab. These labs have not established themselves like BD has, and in a lot of cases, the people behind these labs get it, then get out, either when they make enough money, or their quality starts to go to shit, or they start scamming. YOu can bet whatever other UG company you may be using now, they wont be around in 2-3 years. BD will. BD serves users all over the world. Thats a big market to fill. Most fly by night new UG labs that people talk about here, are sold locally in gyms, and maybe off the net as well. The point is .. that 90% of them are in it for the short term. Do you know of any local UG lab that has been around for as long as BD? They all fold em some time or another.

4. Price: I have seen them sold expensively, and cheaply. All depends on your source. It comes down to the fact that no matter what you pay for it, you are going to get a quality product, from a quality lab, that has established themselves MANY times, and is in for the long haul. This is one of the few labs I would not even care about testing a prod from them. One of the other new labs popping up, I would definately want to see some tests, or some feedback before using them. BD's quality and reputation speak for themselves. I am with ret on this one. I personally dont mind spending a little extra cash to know that I am getting a quality product from one of the leading, longest lasting, and biggest UG labs, whos quality has never failed. Spending what ... an extra 20 bucks ... for a little piece of mind is well worth it in my mind. I would really like to try their injects some time. I have only tried the tabs so far, and they were great.

Mavy

 

[Mavy]

You might have noticed that there is an amazingly huge drop in price between UG labs right now. Prods are extrememly cheap. This is a plot to for the cheapest labs to get the cheapest users money. My advice... dont go with the cheapest lab out there that offers you the cheapest gear. These are the labs more likely to cut corners. I will personally always opt for human grade gear first, followed by long time trusted UG after that. I am not looking to save an extra few bucks, to jeaprodise my health, or the quality of my cycles. Just becuase a new UG lab passes a few of their first tests dosent mean a whole hell of a lot. What it does mean to me is if you are a penny pincher when it comes to your body, and want to go with 1 of the new labs popping up, use them while they are new, while their quality is good, as this could change might quickly.

I guess that there will ALWAYS be two types of users.

Ones that want to save a buck. For whatever reason, ...students, poor, broke, whatever. Then there will be the ones who dont mind coughing up the extra cash for quality product with an established reputation, like Human grade gear for example. These two types of people dont just buy their gear like this, but its generally everything ... cars, clothes, food etc. Some dont need peice of mind, and some dont really care, as long as they are getting a cheap prod. To each their own I guess.

 

[Wrongun]

Well summarised Mavy and agreed each to their own as there is a valid debate for both ways

Wrongun!

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Very good products.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Is the expense worth it?

If you bought BD from the man then you must know him very personnally as he has distibutors and as far as he recalls he has never heard of you.

He did not sell to me under the name puddlemonkey.

If you bought from the website then you will have also read that it was taken by another source and yes he was vey expensive. Anyway enough of that i am sure you are confident you are high up the chain.

No, the BD website is not an ordering site. And yes, I am confident enough to know I was high enough on the chain to be dealing with him. I know how his operation works (payments/shipping/etc) but I wont go into detail on that in the open forum.

The science is accurate blood concentration levels so what is your limit??? 200% you quote. So are you saying if you buy an amp that states 250mg/ml and it is actually 500mg/ml without knowing you are happy and see that as a benefit.

Wow, you really like to twist the facts don't you?

Where the scamming came into it i do not know have you someting you wish to share???? The lab does NOT sell direct but through distributors. Therefore yes the distributor can scam (similar to IP's) but not the lab.

Being a UG lab there is a risk of turning scammer just like any other lab. Yes, they have a good rep and have been around for awhile. But no, this does not make them exempt from ever going scammer.

The discussion here started with BD products. I like and use as do many others. You made a comment about never using due to cost (although it seems you have been ripped off before which i am sure hurts you)

I did not make a comment about never using BD. I've purchased and used BD in the past as I've stated, but not longer as I can get a trusted quality product for a fraction of the price. That has been my point all along.

So where you aregumnent about Zenkall having a good rep comes from is irrelevant is it not unless you know the set up and are happy with unstable dosages?

First, its Zencall, no 'k'. Second, So you're telling me you've been inside the BD lab before huh? I find that a little hard to believe. Maybe you've got some pics from your field trip?

 

[puddlemonkey]

I guess that there will ALWAYS be two types of users.

Ones that want to save a buck. For whatever reason, ...students, poor, broke, whatever. Then there will be the ones who dont mind coughing up the extra cash for quality product with an established reputation, like Human grade gear for example. These two types of people dont just buy their gear like this, but its generally everything ... cars, clothes, food etc. Some dont need peice of mind, and some dont really care, as long as they are getting a cheap prod. To each their own I guess.

Actually, I dont fall under this "save a buck" catagory if you were refering to me. And if you weren't disregard the rest of this. I buy in bulk, and when I do, I get some amazing prices. But even my non-bulk prices are far better than BD, which has been my point from the beginning, BD are too expensive. As for the cheap cars, clothes, food, etc. I'm 28 years old, a homeowner, and I drive a Lexus SC400. I am not cheap, nor am I a poor college student. But I also don't like to get screwed, and when I buy BD I feel I am.

 

[Retabolil2]

prepare to be scammed!!!

Wrongun!

Damn! newbies read the rules! I`d never trust anyone who recommend me a source these days except trusted vets and mods of course.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Ok, I need to go to work soon.... let me put it a different way so we can all move on. I feel BD are a little spendy. And I choose other options for gear. BD are however, a very good company with a quality product. If you choose to buy BD products, you are getting top of the line UG sauce and will be very happy with your results. If you do not get results from BD gear, its unlikely the gear itself, and diet/workout should be looked at first.

Hope this was a little better. I know I can come across as an ass sometimes, and I'm trying to work on my internet politeness.

 

[Wrongun]

Puddlemonkey i am tired of arguing with you:

1) you have not bought direct from the BD lab as it is through distributors. He has no payment info etc open board or not, that simple so sorry to burst your bubble of grandier.

2) How have i twisted facts i have quoted from you and teh examples you used. The figure was 23% YOU stated. Or maybe you find it hard to say i have a point?

3) Nowhere did i say you had not used. My statement was never using ....implying again

4) Apologies for my spelling mistake i will try my hardest to rectify in future.

5) My knowledge is adequate of the lab. Yes i have left the UK on occasions and continue to do so. As for pictures then no i have not got nor do i think are relevant. The point is from my statement ( i will quote exactly what i said to refresh your memory ''i am confident (which i have to be with any product that i intend to inject into me) that the operation is not run from someones kitchen and actually conducted in a true lab''

Of that i am confident and have assured myself.

I hope you are clearer now of what i have put and written i have tried to keep it simple.

Not sure where you get confused (apart from your maths and overdosing) but hey show me where i twisted facts please as i am interested as was always quite goos with maths!!!!

Wrongun!

 

[Retabolil2]

Re: Is the expense worth it?

Is that a joke? Who cares how much they charge? My wallet cares. Why would I pay over twice as much for the same product? The UG lab I use now has been tested on multiple occasions and every time came back slightly overdosed. So why would I use BD, a lab also with a good reputation, but one that charges twice as much for their products and I've never actually seen a lab result for? I'd have to be an idiot to continue to use BD considering the other options I have.



Come again? Sorry bro, that question didn't make any sense to me.



I don't doubt this claim, but could you post a scan of the results? I'd like to see them as I mentioned before never seeing BD lab results. I've got scans of two labs results from the UG brand I am using now. Test Enanthate, label claims are the normal 250mg/ml, first batch came back at 278mg/ml and the second batch 324mg/ml.



This must be why you're getting a little defensive over the fact I choose not to use BD products anymore.

I don`t mind you using QV or anyhting else bro Its up to you. Also I do not recommend you a good source for BD products But I`m trying to explain that this company deserve much more trust than any other UG lab in my opinion. Also their stuff is not the highest priced around. Go get some Body Research Danabolan at $17 per vial in Thailand if you want. And trust me some wallets pay for this stuff! BTW all their products are top notch too in my opinion.
There are lots of lab results posted on the boards, according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004 their Boldabol is overdosed 208mg/1ml.
BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake. I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards, everyone would think its selfpromotion. But no one ever seen underdosed BD stuff, thats a fact