Bridging with Slin is awesome!

[Primal X]

I've been off of everything for 4 weeks now (clomid included) and I started insulin/Creatine/ALA/HCA after clomid therapy and I am very impressed. I ended my 4 week cycle of fina/winny at 180lbs. and 12%. I am now 177lbs and 10%. You do the math. My strength is still there also. I got 245 x 2 on flat bench yesterday and that is my all time highest. (I know I'm weak, shut the fuck up) Another great thing about slin is that it does not affect HPTA so it can fully regenerate itself between cycles. For those interested here is my slin schedule:

11:00 AM 10 IU's slin
11:05 AM 2 banana's 2 scoops whey 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA, 10 grams creatine
11:15 AM Workout
12:00 PM 1/2 cup rice 2 scoops whey 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA, 10 grams creatine
1:00 PM 1/4 cup rice 1.5lbs FatFree cottage cheese 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA
3:00 PM 5 IU's slin
3:05 PM 1 medium potato 1 chix breast 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA
5:00 pm 1 medium potato 1 chix breast 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA

 

[PBR]

slin bridge

What Slin are you using-exactly? thanks bro
also, do you have frig slin if its opened? how long will it keep?

 

[Primal X]

I use Humulin-R and just keep it in the fridge. The exp. date it August 2002 on the bottle.

 

[perfectspecimen]

how dangerous is using slin?

 

[HugeWannabe]

Slin is very dangerous, make sure you know the difference between the CCs and UIs or you can die. DO a search there a ton of info out there

 

[FISHTALES]

this thread is sad..

 

[3Vandoo]

this thread is sad..

ok then

 

[FISHTALES]

ok then

what i mean is its vague, i mean CCs and "UIs" expiration dates, i just would not want to see some kid get fucked from lack of complete info, im not saying its not a good bridge or "flaming" slin is dangerous so just be carefull when reading info that is not "complete".

 

[pajaro loco]

I've been off of everything for 4 weeks now (clomid included) and I started insulin/Creatine/ALA/HCA after clomid therapy and I am very impressed. I ended my 4 week cycle of fina/winny at 180lbs. and 12%. I am now 177lbs and 10%. . For those interested here is my slin schedule:

11:00 AM 10 IU's slin
11:05 AM 2 banana's 2 scoops whey 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA, 10 grams creatine
11:15 AM Workout
12:00 PM 1/2 cup rice 2 scoops whey 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA, 10 grams creatine
1:00 PM 1/4 cup rice 1.5lbs FatFree cottage cheese 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA
3:00 PM 5 IU's slin
3:05 PM 1 medium potato 1 chix breast 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA
5:00 pm 1 medium potato 1 chix breast 200mgs ALA, 375mgs HCA

Good for you bro! Take care!

 

[Frackal]

how dangerous is using slin?

Dangerous enough to kill you within hours if you fuck up.

 

[Frackal]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

 

[Delinquent]

I don't understand why you people say it's so dangerous. There's MORE than enough info on this board or any decent sized board to teach anyone how to use insulin correctly. Yes you can die IF you don't research it, but with PROPER research it's not as dangerous as everyone says. I've never done it, hell I haven't even done my first cycle but with proper education there's nothing to worry about

 

[Frackal]

I think people say its dangerous because of the fact that it can kill you in a matter of hours if you use it incorrectly...gear seems to be very forgiving in terms of abuse/misuse but with insulin you only have to fuck up once....

 

[Taomaster]

I don't understand why you people say it's so dangerous. There's MORE than enough info on this board or any decent sized board to teach anyone how to use insulin correctly. Yes you can die IF you don't research it, but with PROPER research it's not as dangerous as everyone says. I've never done it, hell I haven't even done my first cycle but with proper education there's nothing to worry about

Please don't think I'm flaming you, but you've got me raising my eyebrows - if you have never even done one cycle (I respect your honesty in stating the truth, rather than pretending you are have cycled a lot), how can you comment over 1,400 times in discussions of AS's? I'm starting my 4th cycle and am in my second year of AS use. I have learned a lot but am blown away by the knowledge on this board by vets. I don't comment muc, because I don't want to lead someone astray if I am not 95% sure of myself. Just curious.

 

[Frackal]

I virtually never give cycle advice either tao master...there are very few people on this board I actually trust to give me good info...

 

[Primal X]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

It's only dangerous if you lack the knowledge and the discipline. BTW, I max out at 260.

 

[BiggerisBetter]

i always thought it was next to imposible to add muscle mass with sline with using AS

 

[Socio]

from my understanding insulin is only good for 30 days after opening.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

Good point. I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Mad_maxx18]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

I 2nd this.

 

[HugeWannabe]

slin in definitly intriguing and great that its OTC but its a little too crazy for me for awhile, plus I think I can meet my goals without and avoid a lot of possible complications.

 

[Rather Be Ruggin']

I don't understand why you people say it's so dangerous. There's MORE than enough info on this board or any decent sized board to teach anyone how to use insulin correctly. Yes you can die IF you don't research it, but with PROPER research it's not as dangerous as everyone says. I've never done it, hell I haven't even done my first cycle but with proper education there's nothing to worry about

Because 90% of the people on this board don't do enough research. Nuff said.

 

[Delinquent]

Agreed.

Oh and about the number of posts I have. I think people should do a year of research before doing their first cycle. If I remember correctly most of my comments are on dnp or clen being that I've done them. If it's something I haven't done, I try to say "from what I've read" or "everyone say to" etc. Add a year and 3 months worth of questions regarding aas, comments to new people, wisecracks, and some from other sections of the borad and 1400 isn't hard to reach.

 

[BIGEDD]

What king of muscle are you gaining is it hard good quality or puffy? How much are you using?

 

[FISHTALES]

from my understanding insulin is only good for 30 days after opening.

uh?

 

[gUiLe]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

Umm..what he said

 

[gUiLe]

if you have never even done one cycle (I respect your honesty in stating the truth, rather than pretending you are have cycled a lot), how can you comment over 1,400 times in discussions of AS's?

That's like 80 percent of the guys on this board!

I'm starting my 4th cycle and am in my second year of AS use. I have learned a lot but am blown away by the knowledge on this board by vets. I don't comment muc, because I don't want to lead someone astray if I am not 95% sure of myself.

I TOTALLY hear ya on that one. Peace
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[gUiLe]

It's only dangerous if you lack the knowledge and the DISCIPLINE.

Bro, what the fuck does DISCIPLINE got to do with the dangers
(yes, it IS dangerous!!) of insulin??
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[Rather Be Ruggin']

Bro, what the fuck does DISCIPLINE got to do with the dangers
(yes, it IS dangerous!!) of insulin??
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i think what he means is that you have a strict diet when using slin because not only can it cause adverse effects (increase in bodyfat) but it can also kill you (not taking in the amount of carbs at the right time post insulin shot).

 

[HugeWannabe]

i think what he means is that you have a strict diet when using slin because not only can it cause adverse effects (increase in bodyfat) but it can also kill you (not taking in the amount of carbs at the right time post insulin shot).

this is the exact reason I am not using it with my pgf2a, even though it will reduce sides, I dont think with my schedule I can stick to that tight of a diet, right now Iam bulking at 4600 cals a day w/ 380 protein and have all my meals packaged and stuff but with slin it would get even more complicated. Also slin can induce fat and I am using thepgf2a to get rid of the fat. Can you use slin at say 1ui 3-5x a day without worrying about holding onto fat or not getting enough carbs?

 

[TooJacked]

PrimalX- I see that your taking in 10 IU of slin at 11:00, then five minutes later the only carbs you eat are from 2 bananas. I've read that you should be taking in 10grams carbs/IU of slin or you risk going into hypoglycemic state. How are you avoiding this problem only taking in about 60g of carbs(2 bananas) and also taking in 200mg of ALA which also adds to the risk of going hypoglycemic. Then your working out, also depleting your body of glycogen. I don't get it.

I'm no expert on slin, just going by what I read.

 

[Taomaster]

My dad has been taking insulin for years due to diabetes. My relatives on his side have had everything from limbs amputated to blindness to death due to that horrible disease.

I know there are many here who know much more about insulin use than I, but it just seems that messing with your natural insulin control system is asking for trouble, especially if you are prone to diabetes. Best to ask all your relatives to know if you have a history of diabetes before you invite problems with insulin dependancy.

Does anyone know of the body's natural response to external insulin introduction (like test shuts down natural test production). Fine if you are diabetic and your insulin production system is shot anyways, but why screw with something that works good. Some goes for Cytomel/T3 and thyroid. If not careful, you're asking for problems, all in the name of a few extra pounds of muscle that won't make you content in life if you aren't now anyways.

 

[PaPaPumPPP]

My dad has been taking insulin for years due to diabetes. My relatives on his side have had everything from limbs amputated to blindness to death due to that horrible disease.

I know there are many here who know much more about insulin use than I, but it just seems that messing with your natural insulin control system is asking for trouble, especially if you are prone to diabetes. Best to ask all your relatives to know if you have a history of diabetes before you invite problems with insulin dependancy.

Does anyone know of the body's natural response to external insulin introduction (like test shuts down natural test production). Fine if you are diabetic and your insulin production system is shot anyways, but why screw with something that works good. Some goes for Cytomel/T3 and thyroid. If not careful, you're asking for problems, all in the name of a few extra pounds of muscle that won't make you content in life if you aren't now anyways.

I agree, BUT, what do you think we are going with synthetic testosterone and growth? True, you might not die from shooting AAS right away, but long term, who knows. We'll just have to see how long some of these pros live.

 

[Super Halo Man]

Bridge with Halo and Plutonium.

 

[Purple]

Just curious as to why you inject the slin 15 mins before your workout. This has the potential to cause you to go into sugar shock even if you have had enough carbs right after.

While working out your body will burn off energy leaving you in a position where you can easily go into sugar shock.

Secondly you should be taking the slin after your workout to help "shuttle" the sugars into your muscles to replenish what has been burnt off. OR at least a few hours before you workout to ensure that you have had adequate carbs.

just my .2

 

[gUiLe]

My dad has been taking insulin for years due to diabetes. My relatives on his side have had everything from limbs amputated to blindness to death due to that horrible disease.

I know there are many here who know much more about insulin use than I, but it just seems that messing with your natural insulin control system is asking for trouble, especially if you are prone to diabetes. Best to ask all your relatives to know if you have a history of diabetes before you invite problems with insulin dependancy.

Does anyone know of the body's natural response to external insulin introduction (like test shuts down natural test production). Fine if you are diabetic and your insulin production system is shot anyways, but why screw with something that works good. Some goes for Cytomel/T3 and thyroid. If not careful, you're asking for problems, all in the name of a few extra pounds of muscle that won't make you content in life if you aren't now anyways.

Nice, especially the last part. Karma for you bro!
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[tprop]

I would never suggest anyone use insulin due to it's potentially life threatening sides. I however love a 4 week cycle on slin 5iu before workout and 5iu after workout. I also take lots of dextrose and creatine during and after workout to keep my blood sugar elevated. Followup with a post workout meal of complex carbs and a protein shake and you gains will be awsome. Nobody can say that insulin won't increase the potein and androgen absorbtion.

 

[Primal X]

PrimalX- I see that your taking in 10 IU of slin at 11:00, then five minutes later the only carbs you eat are from 2 bananas. I've read that you should be taking in 10grams carbs/IU of slin or you risk going into hypoglycemic state. How are you avoiding this problem only taking in about 60g of carbs(2 bananas) and also taking in 200mg of ALA which also adds to the risk of going hypoglycemic. Then your working out, also depleting your body of glycogen. I don't get it.

I'm no expert on slin, just going by what I read.

I started off with 10grams carbs per IU of insulin and no ALA....I figured out my tolerance and now i can safely consume 5-6 grams carbs per IU with no hypo symptoms. NONE. I can't say that I'm gettig great gains....its the fact that my strength has not subsided and no mucle has been lost since ending my fina cycle. Thats why it impresses me. Oh, and frackal, I didn't know you have to weigh in at a certain # to use a certain drug. I just thought if you researched the hell out of it and use extreme caution you can go ahead and experiment.

 

[Frackal]

You dont have to be a certain size or weight bro, but I think 6' 170 I fail to see how even GEAR much less insulin is necessary to gain you know?

 

[Metal Gear]

I've been on Slin for about 4 weeks now and this is my 2nd time cycling it and I must say that I love it. It keeps me full and helps me keep my gains. I take 12 iu after workout and 5 hours later I take another 12 ius. I'm 5'11 and 245 lbs at 7%. I haven't put on any fat while using it becuse I don't eat fat duing the time that it's active. I do have to agree with some of the people here about guys using inuslin that weigh buck 70 or 80!! Come on! You have so much potential just by using AS that you don't need that. That's for people who have plateued and already put on more than 30-40 lbs a year and need the extra kick.

I have fallen asleep on it before and nothing has happened, but I woke up with my heart racing and I was sweating like crazy. That's the most dangerous thing that can happen to you. YOU MUST NOT FALL ASLEEP ON IT!

 

[Kid Blast]

Also, no offense primal x but why in the fuck are you using something as dangerous and advanced as insulin if you only weigh 177 and cant even bench 250 ????

Dude, cut the guy some slack. He's probably only 4'10" and looks huge at 177lbs!

Good discussion, bros. Hey, a little debate is what this board is all about.