Bridging with SARMS

[Oatmeal12]

Hello all. I am very curious about SARMS and have ordered myself two bottles of MK-2866! Dylan has written some great articles and threads on the SARMS world, so if you haven't read them be sure to check it out!

I plan to use and run SARMS as a bridge between my ASS cycles. I want to ask the Elite-fitness members with real world experience, What did SARMS Do For You after Your ASS cycle?

• Were you cutting, maintaining, or bulking last cycle?
• What did you Run last ASS cycle and what did you use for SARMS?
• How Much Weight did you retain, lose, or gain after bridging with SARMS?
• Do You feel like it really Helped? Do you feel like you fully recovered after PCT+SARMS?

Lets Hear it!

 

[letsgosarms]

Re: Briding with SARMS

Hello all. I am very curious about SARMS and have ordered myself two bottles of MK-2866! Dylan has written some great articles and threads on the SARMS world, so if you haven't read them be sure to check it out!

I plan to use and run SARMS as a bridge between my ASS cycles. I want to ask the Elite-fitness members with real world experience, What did SARMS Do For You after Your ASS cycle?

• Were you cutting, maintaining, or bulking last cycle?
• What did you Run last ASS cycle and what did you use for SARMS?
• How Much Weight did you retain, lose, or gain after bridging with SARMS?
• Do You feel like it really Helped? Do you feel like you fully recovered after PCT+SARMS?

Lets Hear it!

Cool man, good question.

I was on a LGD cycle not too long ago for 8 weeks total, gained early 22 solid pounds 171-193. I was on an extreme bulk, and didnt gain too much fat at all. An extremely successful first cycle. I have a review thread with pictures somewhere out there, check it out.

Well i started OSTA with about 3 weeks left in my LGD cycle and and just about to finish up 12 weeks this week. I am nothing but satisfied as hell with the results.

THE RESULTS:
kept all of my muscle gains, kept all of my strength gains, lost almost an inch off my waist, and SHREDDED UP. What more could i ask for? I will always use ostarine between cycles. I only have lost 4 pounds since cycle, but obviously it is fat.

I will run a 3 week PCT starting friday for OSTA. After this i will say i am fully recovered. I can tell i am a bit supressed now, but DAA 4 days on per week help alot

Good luck brother!

 

[Jbranken]

Re: Briding with SARMS

I've used sarms stacks on a dozen different occasions now during pct and bridges after ASS cycles. I've never had a problem recovering from them and they're simply amazing at helping you maintain your ASS cycle gains. If you continue eating and training correctly in your pct/bridge after an ASS cycle, you can easily add a few more lbs of muscle and drop some bf too. It's nice maintaining that 'on' feeling after using ASS. My next pct will include ostarine, mk677 and gw for 4 weeks and then ill add in s4 and extend them out for bridging.

 

[Nelson Montana]

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If you're going to use sarms to bridge, you might as well stay on the cycle.

I know that isn't a popular opinion. I know people want it to be different. I know people will say they had good results. But I dare ANYONE to stay on sarms for 8 weeks after a cycle and have a blood test and show recovered levels. IT WILL NOT BE THE CASE. EVER. EVER.

I will lay down any amount of money on that right now.

But...do what you want.

 

[infraredline]

If you're going to use sarms to bridge, you might as well stay on the cycle.

I know that isn't a popular opinion. I know people want it to be different. I know people will say they had good results. But I dare ANYONE to stay on sarms for 8 weeks after a cycle and have a blood test and show recovered levels. IT WILL NOT BE THE CASE. EVER. EVER.

I will lay down any amount of money on that right now.

But...do what you want.

Will this be the case even if you run unleashed and post cycle as a pct following the sarms?

 

[bigbassturd]

lol Nelson what's your agenda against SARMS use? You know I respect your opinion and knowledge regarding the use of AAS, but to say you will NEVER recover using a SARMS bridge is pure ignorance.

The last two cycles I ran were followed by a full PCT and then a SARMS triple stacks at reccomended doses. After a 3 week mini PCT and an additional 5 weeks off, my bloods showed test at 766 the first time and 759 the next.

Both sets of bloods were posted on a handful of forums to show the effectiveness of a Post Cycle/Unleashed combo being added to traditional PCT products

Now, what amount of money were we talking here that you'd bet?

 

[dylangemelli]

if you're going to use sarms to bridge, you might as well stay on the cycle.

I know that isn't a popular opinion. I know people want it to be different. I know people will say they had good results. But i dare anyone to stay on sarms for 8 weeks after a cycle and have a blood test and show recovered levels. It will not be the case. Ever. Ever.


I will lay down any amount of money on that right now.

But...do what you want.

wrong!!!!

 

[dylangemelli]

lol Nelson what's your agenda against SARMS use? You know I respect your opinion and knowledge regarding the use of AAS, but to say you will NEVER recover using a SARMS bridge is pure ignorance.

The last two cycles I ran were followed by a full PCT and then a SARMS triple stacks at
reccomended doses. After a 3 week mini PCT and an additional 5 weeks off, my bloods showed test at 766 the first time and 759 the next.

Both sets of bloods were posted on a handful of forums to show the effectiveness of a Post Cycle/Unleashed combo being added to traditional PCT products

Now, what amount of money were we talking here that you'd bet?

Exactly and your FAR from the only one... That post is utter bs with nothing but opinion on something hes never done and has no experience with whatsoever... Complete bs in every way

 

[Jbranken]

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If you're going to use sarms to bridge, you might as well stay on the cycle.

I honestly don't see how that's an accurate comparison. Sarms don't carry the plethora of negative sides that steroids do. They don't have androgenic activity in non-skeletal-muscle tissues like steroids so theyre not producing growth in the prostate or secondary sex organs. Their suppression is minimal and has little effect on lipids and liver values. There's no crash when you stop and everyone is raving about how good they feel on them

I know that isn't a popular opinion. I know people want it to be different. I know people will say they had good results. But I dare ANYONE to stay on sarms for 8 weeks after a cycle and have a blood test and show recovered levels. IT WILL NOT BE THE CASE. EVER. EVER.

It has been stated time and time again that sarms do suppress, especially s-4, but not anywhere near the extent of anabolic steroids. I would go as far to say that the suppression is minisicule in comparison. A simple 3 week pct with some test boosters does the trick every time. No SERM needed here. No raisin sized atrophied nuts after sarms use. It didnt bomb my LH and FSH, sometimes it didnt even drop it at all. In my experience, only a slight drop in total test which was recovered within a few short weeks. Others may respond differently and need to figure out how they react to them, but generalizing and saying that everyone will be suppressed 100% of the time is inaccurate, especially when you've never even used a sarm yourself

I will lay down any amount of money on that right now.

But...do what you want.

Why don't you try them out for yourself instead of all of the skepticism.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ive ran three sarms bridges EXAcTLY like that right after cycles... 822, 892, 904... Rickrock has done it several times... Stellar bloodwork... List goes on and on... Ridiculous fact given above with mo truth... ALL opinion on it and its ridiculous... Im so tired of having to go over this... If it was like staying on and not recovering i would have never been doing it and not recommending it... I have the EXPERIENCE, the study, etc...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Re: Briding with SARMS

Blah. Blah. Blah. You people think I'm just talking out of my ass?

Tell you what....

Take a blood test.

Do a cycle.

Follow the cycle with 6 weeks of sarms.

Take another blood test.

If your T levels are back up to where they were before you started the cycle I will personally write you a check for $5000.

So lets stop all this nonsense.

And of course, using UNLEASHED will help you recover from the SARMS.

bigbastard and DYlan -- you recovered FROM sarms, not BECAUSE of it. Big difference.

I have nothing against SARMS. I think it as its place. It simply WILL NOT help you recover and anyone who thinks so is just kidding themselves. But, don't let that stop you.

 

[bigbassturd]

Blah. Blah. Blah. You people think I'm just talking out of my ass?

Tell you what....

Take a blood test.

Do a cycle.

Follow the cycle with 6 weeks of sarms.

Take another blood test.

If your T levels are back up to where they were before you started the cycle I will personally write you a check for $5000.

So lets stop all this nonsense.

And of course, using UNLEASHED will help you recover from the SARMS.

bigbastard and DYlan -- you recovered FROM sarms, not BECAUSE of it. Big difference.

I have nothing against SARMS. I think it as its place. It simply WILL NOT help you recover and anyone who thinks so is just kidding themselves. But, don't let that stop you.

Noone said to use them as PCT for recovery bro, this entire discussion is for their use in a bridge period. Dylan, Rick, and myself all advocate the implementation of a full 4 week PCT following any cycle before ever touching SARMS. The bridge stack isn't for recovery. It's to maintain and add to the gains you made on cycle while allowing your LH and FSH to return. If you'll check all of our work, you'll see we all suggest using a product like HCGenerate while on SARMS, which is more than enough to combat the extremely mild suppression that occurs from Ostarine at 25mg or less.

I have taken bloods before and after cycles & after SARMS stacks used as a bridge multiple times, and my test always returned to within 10-15 points of the intial report..

 

[dylangemelli]

Who said anything about recovering because of sarms?? Im not quite sure how it turned into that... We are able to run them and not get suppressed because of running proper ancillaries, strong pcts and for the simple fact they are not that suppressive to begin with

 

[infraredline]

I can say that in my 2 ostarine solo runs I have experienced no form of suppression of any sort while being able to make considerable gains from it. That being said I see no problem with using it to hold onto and make further gains in pct.

 

[bigbassturd]

Nelson, have you ever ran any SARM? And do you have bloodwork?

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: Briding with SARMS

Blah. Blah. Blah. You people think I'm just talking out of my ass?

Tell you what....

Take a blood test.

Do a cycle.

Follow the cycle with 6 weeks of sarms.

Take another blood test.

If your T levels are back up to where they were before you started the cycle I will personally write you a check for $5000.

So lets stop all this nonsense.

And of course, using UNLEASHED will help you recover from the SARMS.

bigbastard and DYlan -- you recovered FROM sarms, not BECAUSE of it. Big difference.

I have nothing against SARMS. I think it as its place. It simply WILL NOT help you recover and anyone who thinks so is just kidding themselves. But, don't let that stop you.

You people? Pretty disrespectful to say the least... You ARE THE ONE TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS... You say you have no problem with sarms but the fact that its not unleashed doesn't work for you... You say it has a place but everytime they are spoken about you find a way to have something against them... You are completely wrong... You are talking about things you are nowhere close to as experienced with as others and please don't say you are because you have never spoken ONCE about using them... Its one thing if you don't agree with something and have an opinion but your making claims that simply are not true and its gone too far for too long... You are wrong and I know you think you are right 100% of the time but my friend, that's not the case... Why then Nelson, in the damn near two years I have been recommending sarms bridges and sarms in general have their been no complaints of suppression and all these negatives you claim? Why is that... Fuck, I even got Steve and Hurricane on them... ASK THEM AS WELL... They will be glad to tell you I am sure... They are SO MANY guys that have and are using them with NONE of the shit you are claiming...

 

[Oatmeal12]

Can we get back to the topic. I did not want this to turn into a flame war.

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[Nelson Montana]

Re: Briding with SARMS

This seems to be a matter of semantics. So let's say this -- if you're "bridging" then you aren't recovering. So what's the difference between that and a low dose cycle? It's the same thing.

Using sarms is irrelevant to what it does. (And yes, I have used it). I don't have to use anadrol to know it's suppressive,. That's just silly.


Maybe it's me, I've only been involved in this field for 40 years with hundreds of published works (including having written most of the information you've read about sarms) so maybe I'm not as experienced as everybody else commenting. My bad. Carry on.

 

[infraredline]

This seems to be a matter of semantics. So let's say this -- if you're "bridging" then you aren't recovering. So what's the difference between that and a low dose cycle? It's the same thing.

Using sarms is irrelevant to what it does. (And yes, I have used it). I don't have to use anadrol to know it's suppressive,. That's just silly.


Maybe it's me, I've only been involved in this field for 40 years with hundreds of published works (including having written most of the information you've read about sarms) so maybe I'm not as experienced as everybody else commenting. My bad. Carry on.

Nelson with all due respect how you came to this comparison I have no idea. If you bridge with gear due to the negative feedback loop you will eventually become completely shut down. The beauty of sarms is you aren't completely shutting yourself down. You are only getting minimal if any suppression while being able to maintain your on cycle gains (given that your diet and training are in place)

Correct me if I'm wrong here Dylan

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Briding with SARMS

which SARM's did you run nelson? also if you were on HRT how would you be able to know if they suppressed you?

not every SARM is the same.. LGD is definately suppressive, no question... don't think you are talking about LGD though as its only been on the market a short time and the unique reps were the first to test it out on our mice.

however MK and GW there is no evidence that they are suppressive at all. my mice have used them all and can confirm this

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: Briding with SARMS

Nelson with all due respect how you came to this comparison I have no idea. If you bridge with gear due to the negative feedback loop you will eventually become completely shut down. The beauty of sarms is you aren't completely shutting yourself down. You are only getting minimal if any suppression while being able to maintain your on cycle gains (given that your diet and training are in place)

Correct me if I'm wrong here Dylan

you are correct bro...

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: Briding with SARMS

which SARM's did you run nelson? also if you were on HRT how would you be able to know if they suppressed you?

not every SARM is the same.. LGD is definately suppressive, no question... don't think you are talking about LGD though as its only been on the market a short time and the unique reps were the first to test it out on our mice.

however MK and GW there is no evidence that they are suppressive at all. my mice have used them all and can confirm this

thank you for your confirmation bro....

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: Briding with SARMS

This seems to be a matter of semantics. So let's say this -- if you're "bridging" then you aren't recovering. So what's the difference between that and a low dose cycle? It's the same thing.

Using sarms is irrelevant to what it does. (And yes, I have used it). I don't have to use anadrol to know it's suppressive,. That's just silly.


Maybe it's me, I've only been involved in this field for 40 years with hundreds of published works (including having written most of the information you've read about sarms) so maybe I'm not as experienced as everybody else commenting. My bad. Carry on.

they are nothing like a low dose cycle... that's complete and utterly ridiculous...

noone is questioning your overall knowledge, length of time in the game, etc... but give me a break... you have never spoke a word on sarms use, never made any sort of input whatsoever and NOW all of a sudden not only have you ran them but you know all these facts? come on man... I know you have a wealth of knowledge on the aas world... There's no doubt about it... I have respect for that but the way your acting and the shit your saying with this is ridiculous and its just wrong... You can say whatever you want but your wrong here...

 

[RickRock13]

Shit.....I thought this thread ("Briding" with SARMS) was about someone marrying their Ostarine since they loved it so much. guess not.....bummer

 

[dylangemelli]

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Shit.....I thought this thread ("Briding" with SARMS) was about someone marrying their Ostarine since they loved it so much. guess not.....bummer

lollll

 

[Jbranken]

Re: Briding with SARMS

Shit.....I thought this thread ("Briding" with SARMS) was about someone marrying their Ostarine since they loved it so much. guess not.....bummer

Lmao! I guess that makes S4 my mistress

 

[Nelson Montana]

Re: Briding with SARMS

 

[dylangemelli]

Hello all. I am very curious about SARMS and have ordered myself two bottles of MK-2866! Dylan has written some great articles and threads on the SARMS world, so if you haven't read them be sure to check it out!

I plan to use and run SARMS as a bridge between my ASS cycles. I want to ask the Elite-fitness members with real world experience, What did SARMS Do For You after Your ASS cycle?

• Were you cutting, maintaining, or bulking last cycle?
• What did you Run last ASS cycle and what did you use for SARMS?
• How Much Weight did you retain, lose, or gain after bridging with SARMS?
• Do You feel like it really Helped? Do you feel like you fully recovered after PCT+SARMS?

Lets Hear it!

The question was never answered so we need to get to that... FIRST THINGS FIRST THOUGH BRO... I had to fix your title already because it said Briding with sarms so everyone thinks your wanting to marry one of them... LOL and on top of that, Your question in bold asks about our "ASS CYCLE" LMFAO... BRO, it doesn't look good!! =)

Sarms are great as a bridge... You can use them in a variety of ways... I always use them to really cut and clean my gains from on cycle... They can be used to not only keep but enhance gains in a variety of ways dependent upon how you want to utilize them... Recovery should be very smooth and there should be very minimal shutdown AS LONG as you run the proper supports and don't abuse the dosage... Gains should be big and sides should be minimal... You just need to follow the protocol and run the cycle right and you will be very happy... Even though you are not "on" you still feel like you are and some even feel better than on cycle... You should have an excellent experience and love the results...

 

[Oatmeal12]

The question was never answered so we need to get to that... FIRST THINGS FIRST THOUGH BRO... I had to fix your title already because it said Briding with sarms so everyone thinks your wanting to marry one of them... LOL and on top of that, Your question in bold asks about our "ASS CYCLE" LMFAO... BRO, it doesn't look good!! =)

Sarms are great as a bridge... You can use them in a variety of ways... I always use them to really cut and clean my gains from on cycle... They can be used to not only keep but enhance gains in a variety of ways dependent upon how you want to utilize them... Recovery should be very smooth and there should be very minimal shutdown AS LONG as you run the proper supports and don't abuse the dosage... Gains should be big and sides should be minimal... You just need to follow the protocol and run the cycle right and you will be very happy... Even though you are not "on" you still feel like you are and some even feel better than on cycle... You should have an excellent experience and love the results...

What nobody ever done an ASS cycle before? What a bunch of slackers.

LMAO, Remind me not to post at 2:00 AM.

 

[RickRock13]

What nobody ever done an ASS cycle before? What a bunch of slackers.

LMAO, Remind me not to post at 2:00 AM.

I would be willing to bet my paycheck there are a lot of guys on this board doing weekend ASS cycles. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a third of these meatheads weren't playing butt darts with their "training partners" pretty regularly

 

[dylangemelli]

I would be willing to bet my paycheck there are a lot of guys on this board doing weekend ASS cycles. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a third of these meatheads weren't playing butt darts with their "training partners" pretty regularly

Lmfao... That is going to give me nightmares

 

[Oatmeal12]

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