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"bridging w/o AS"

macDbol

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i want to give my body and nuts a break before i hit off my next real cycle this october-nov...i was just wondering, other than creatine and glutamine...have u guys had any success with the methoxy products(not comparing it to AS but from a supplement stand point)? from what i hear you have to take alot of it in order for it to be effective, i wanna hear from ppl who actually took it in solid dosages(700-1000mg a day)
 
2 Things:

1. Methoxygen by VPX sports.
2. Creatine(Any)+600mg ALA/day

The methoxygen's main ingredient is
Methoxyflavone which is basically a
rather anabolic isoflavone.
(In respect to other isoflavones.....LOL)
It DOES have a lot of studies to back it up
by Ciba in the 1960's, 70's, but
its production was discontinued because
of steroids. They were just much better. :)

Things it does:

1. Its NON-hormonal therefore PERFECT
for bridging.

2. It increases nitrogen retention and
protein synthesis somewhat.

By any definition its a WEAK ANABOLIC

But hey, its anabolic AND non-hormonal

1000mgs/day for the duration of your bridge is optimal.

As far as the creatine, 10g/day with 200-400mg ALA
at the same time.

Glutamine: Just not proven. Good for the immune system
though.

Godspeed
 
thats the one in liquid from right? eas has one too,,its in a gel cap....is the liquid really that much better than the powder?
 
macDbol said:
thats the one in liquid from right? eas has one too,,its in a gel cap....is the liquid really that much better than the powder?

Yes, its the liquid one.

VPX uses a Liposomal sub-lingual delivery system
thats about 80-90% as effective as an injection.

Very advanced compared to other supp. companies.

Any oral supp(like EAS) has vey poor absorption becasue
of stomach acid acidity. i.e. a lot of the active
ingredient gets destroyed.


btw. Liposomal= Metoxyflavone encapsulated in globules
of fat that are time-released to boot.

Godspeed
 
im just gonna get my left over 23 gauge and dip that sucker in my liqiud methoxy...j/k,,thanks for the info fonz
 
Fonz said:
2 Things:

1. Methoxygen by VPX sports.
2. Creatine(Any)+600mg ALA/day

The methoxygen's main ingredient is
Methoxyflavone which is basically a
rather anabolic isoflavone.
(In respect to other isoflavones.....LOL)
It DOES have a lot of studies to back it up
by Ciba in the 1960's, 70's, but
its production was discontinued because
of steroids. They were just much better. :)

Things it does:

1. Its NON-hormonal therefore PERFECT
for bridging.

2. It increases nitrogen retention and
protein synthesis somewhat.

By any definition its a WEAK ANABOLIC

But hey, its anabolic AND non-hormonal

1000mgs/day for the duration of your bridge is optimal.

As far as the creatine, 10g/day with 200-400mg ALA
at the same time.

Glutamine: Just not proven. Good for the immune system
though.

Godspeed

Please say you're kidding. Methoxygen contains prohormones. Look at their ads,
they call it "andro-triol" cause there's a blend of three different androstenediones.
....etc, etc.
 
MaxBiceps said:


Please say you're kidding. Methoxygen contains prohormones. Look at their ads,
they call it "andro-triol" cause there's a blend of three different androstenediones.
....etc, etc.

Andro-triol's chemical structure is radically different
then the other pro-hormones VPX uses like
Andro-diol.
It has NO EFFECT on the HPTA.

Trust me on this as I've used Methoxygen several
times before and I researched it before-hand.

Godspeed
 
Fonz said:


Andro-triol's chemical structure is radically different
then the other pro-hormones VPX uses like
Andro-diol.
It has NO EFFECT on the HPTA.

Trust me on this as I've used Methoxygen several
times before and I researched it before-hand.

Godspeed

Are you sure bro? If it doesn't affect the htpa, I might try it myslef,
but I'm skeptical of any legal supplement that has androstene-anything
in it.
 
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