Boldenone (equipoise) and Turinabol?

[Tripp_]

Hello!

Im in need of some guidance concerning my next cycle. I started one on dbol and Testo E, but got problems with my prostate after only a few days... the reason would perferably be the AAS.

Should maybe add that I havent got an enlarged prostate, the condition is called prostatitis and my doctor said its more or less chronic and could reappear from time to time if im unlucky.. The background is I did a beginners cycle with dbol wks 1-4 and testo enanthate 250mg/ml e5d and got this prostatitis after only one week, which in my opinion should mean Im rather prone..? or could this just be a coincidence?

Would it in your opinion be a good idea to include arimidex and saw palmetto to protect one against possible prostatitis, since at least saw palmetto is said to inhibit the process of the 5-alpha-reductase and the conversion to DHT - causing BPH, hair loss and maybe even prostatitis?

Ive recently read up on the Nandrolone decanoate and im starting to feel somewhat ambivalent about using it, since the shutdown of the endegenous testosterone production is substancial in comparison to other compounds and one would have a hard time both recovering and maintaining the acquired gains. Since I have quite low natural testosterone, at 12 nanomol/litre, it would seem to me quite hard to keep my gains.

Ive turned my eyes on Boldenone instead, though it wont build me quite the mass as "Deca", the gains would seemingly be easier to keep? The process of bodybuilding training is an ongoing project and should not be rushed. http://www.bodymass.org/forum/images/smilies/Happy_985.gif

Quote:
Boldenone is summarized in the following;
"For the most part, problems such as gynecomastia and a high degree of water/salt retention are nearly unheard of with this compound. Boldenone undecylenate’s rate of estrogen conversion is approximately fifty percent of that of testosterone[2,3]. As well, since boldenone undecylenate is not hepatoxic to any serious degree it can be used for long periods of time during extensive cycles. Some side effects that may be experienced are acne and increased body-hair growth, as well as the usual virilizing effects in women, however these will likely be at a far reduced level than other compounds[3]. If a user does not stack the compound with testosterone they may suffer sexual side effects, as is the case with the majority of anabolic steroids.

A user's lipid profile will be negatively affected, as with any steroid, but not to the same degree as with a strong androgen. Boldenone undecylenate can convert to DHN (a very mild androgen in comparison to DHT) via 5- alpha reductase, however only a small amount will actually be converted meaning that the compound it is not hard on the hair line[4,5]. However, like most other compounds if you are prone to male pattern baldness, boldenone undecylenate can speed or make the condition more pronounced. Prostate problems are also unlikely to be experienced."

- http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...ead.php?t=6075

Would this be a good stack in combo with the Oral Turinabol?

example:
Week 1-10 Oral Turinabol 40 mg/ed
Week 1-15 Boldenone undecylenate 500mg/ew
Week 1-17 A'dex 0.25mg e3d
Week 3-4, 9-10 HCG 500iu e3d
Week 3-4, 9-10 1000mg E-Vitamin

PCT:
V. 18 Tamoxifen 40mg ed
V. 19-22 Tamoxifen 20mg ed
V. 18-19 HCG 500iu e3d
V. 17-20 Tongkat Ali

Could the libido be somewhat helped by adding some tongkat ali ("long-jack")?? Not too found of the idea of incorporating testosterone, since it got me all theese problems last time..
when needed, the HCG protocol will be run. If my doctor can prescribe some Proscar, i guess i could incorporate this when needed to decrease/recess any symptoms of prostatitis.

Thanks http://www.bodymass.org/forum/images/smilies/sunny.gif
Kindest regards!

 

[Piper25]

I had prostatitis and it is more common than many think. My ex had a bladder infection which in turn gave me Prost. some omoxicillin got rid of it pronto. A bacteria causes Prost from what my doc said so I doubt it was the Dbol but you never know, I am no doctor. I dont use test in my cycles anymore and I just use HCG after week 5or 6. I usually use low hpta shutdown drugs like boldenone, primo, winny etc as I feel I can look good all the time and I will be able to do it more often and longer through age with out serious sides. so far so good.

 

[eClenbuterol]

Bro this is something you should really talk to your Doctor about or get another opinion.

 

[Tripp_]

Bro this is something you should really talk to your Doctor about or get another opinion.

Ive gotten treatment for the prostatitis and the problems are almost gone after only 2 weeks of treatment.

The doctors arent as liberal in the AAS matter in my country...

Anyone who thinks this combo would be beneficial to put on some quality mass?

Regards.

 

[Tripp_]

*bumpin'*

how about the increased red blood cells from the EQ in combo with the Tbol (which makes you bleed more severely? Could this cause problems? and how about the bleeding that comes from injecting?
Have searched the forum, without any luck..

Would appreaciate some help from you gurus..!

Regards!
/Tripp

 

[ALIN]

The thing about Prostatitis is that many things,,,even not gear related can cause your problems.
This is a very complex medical condition. Did your doctor use CIPRO or another antibiotic?

 

[wolfman87]

you're running that tbol too long imo. besides it's pretty much confirmed that it tends to lose potency after 28-30 days. i've done it multiple times and that always seems to be the case, and i'm not the only one. just a waste of gear and money...

 

[Tripp_]

The thing about Prostatitis is that many things,,,even not gear related can cause your problems.
This is a very complex medical condition. Did your doctor use CIPRO or another antibiotic?

Im using a form of doxycycline, it has worked well, also used to combat acne. Its a wide spectrum antibiotics and is suitable for mild acne, chlamydia, bronchitis among other things.. I also treat the condition with naproxen and the two compounds has almost evaporated the problems within one week, though im continuing the treatment for a few weeks.

you're running that tbol too long imo. besides it's pretty much confirmed that it tends to lose potency after 28-30 days. i've done it multiple times and that always seems to be the case, and i'm not the only one. just a waste of gear and money...

Ok. Yeah, I've also read up on something like that, 4-6 weeks then the development results susides. What would be an good option here? Its a bulking cycle i might add trying to avoid heavy androgens, thus could likely be what causes the prostatitis. And there's the negative attention of looking too "puffy".. I know about Oxandrolone, but i dont think it would be a good fit? I want something as a good kicker until the boldenone really kicks in at about week 7-8. With Dbol there is the heavy androgens which could cause my prostate to blow up my ass! *hurts like hell!*

It seems Im quite prone to sides, and guessing that Im responding well to quite mild compounds, even if they dont build me the enormous mass, they will get me a little bit further cycle by cycle..

Thankful for all the input!

Regards!

 

[liquidmuscle]

maybe i just have A.D.D but your posts are too long so I quit reading them halfway.. On a serious note you can get prostatitis in a number of ways, too much caffeine, otc fat burning supps, sex w/someone who has a infection..etc etc it doesnt have to be the gear