Bold Prop Experienced Users - I Need Help!

[meatneck]

hey bros,

I've had some boldedone prop that i've been wanting to try for my next cycle. Soo..Sunday night I injected 1 cc into my left delt and 1 cc into the tear drop of my leg. The next day - Monday night/Tues (I work graveyard) I could barely walk. I could work out tho and it made my leg feel much better. Anyhow, by Tuesday morning I was in some serious pain. My left leg swelled up 3/4 inch larger than my left as you can see in this picture:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/msgr/darkmantis69/.tmp/IMG_0012.JPG?msywDwBBqIKfK1YC <- the black dot is where i injected

anyhow, I emailed the ug lab, I will not name the lab because they are very good bros and I don't want to ruin their good rep, anyhow, they claim that it's not a dirty batch, but my body's reaction to this bold. prop. He told me that he went through 2 weeks of hell getting his body use to the bold. prop. I did get the flu shakes, achey bones the first night and a little the second night. Hell, I even felt a surge in my reps at the gym. But now, it's thursday and my left delt area around the injection is red. My leg is starting to go down a lot now - I've been on amoxicillan 3 times a day at 500mg!. Anyhow, have any of you guys experienced redness or swollen injection sites using boldedone prop? Anything like what I've been going through? I've been thinking that because I have never injected into my leg before, that I caused some sort of trauma to it and that's the reason why it blew up so bad , if in fact, the juice wasn't contaminated (atleast that is what my doctor friend told me if of course my assumption of non-contamination is right). My delt is still sore and red (just got red last night). Also, I've been running a fever of 100 degrees for the past 2 days.

2nd question: Should I bake the gear and try re-injecting 1/4 of a cc to see if I get a reaction (of course in the delt)

OR

should I just throw the batch out and call it a day..and try something else?

help!?

OBTW, when I looked at my leg today it has a sort of purple coloring in it. I'm guessing blood from the swelling? I'm almost walking without a limp now and pain is almot gone..am i in the safe? I figure if I'm still in pain when I wake up today, I'll go to urgent care..but what sort of story should i use ? I was cleaning out my shed on sunday and felt a jab in my leg, and didn't think of it at the moment? blah blah.. lol..

any help will be appreciated!

 

[meatneck]

Bump!

 

[JAYMAN014]

I got the same reaction to NPP, Is this your 1st time using a short ester?. I had swelling above the knee, purple color, couldn't even touch my leg 4 a week, My knee cap was missing fro mthe fluid built up. I kept with it and it got better, each injection was less painful. My glute really didn't bother me too much, Prop is KING OF PAIN. Maybe cut the injection. Good luck Bro.

 

[meatneck]

thanks bro for the response..i have always heard that the prop is the most painful, I guess i over did it for the first time..did yours get all swollen and red like mine? next time, will be sustanon..lol and eq.

 

[Ulter]

BAKE IT!!!!
The UG lab is full of poo poo. It's not the AS, or you getting used to it, it's the solvent they're using. Stick an 18 gauge pin in the vial and stick it in the oven for 20 minutes at 250 deg. The melting point of bold is over 330 so you'll be fine with that.

 

[rjl296]

man
bold prop fucks people up .

heres some reports, IMO -dont even think of using it

posted by 956Vette @massmuscleinc.com


Try at your own risk is what I am saying for the time being.

Quotes from around the community:



Joevette at AR:
The new tren/bold combo I made cripples me! I can barely limp to class! I brewed it up this monday and shot it that night. I don't think it's crashing in the muscle because none of the vial has crashed and my muscle is warmer than the vial. I've shot 14 weeks of Test prop using 5%BA and 10%BB and wasn't in this much pain. Any thoughts on why this stuff hurts so bad?


solid logic from Buff87:
Hey guys I just want to add something that has not been talked
about here... I have from my professional career years of experience
dealing with industrial chemicals... powders to be exact... Based on
how these powders are stored they can easily become Contaminated...

There was a very bad batch of Test Ent powder going around a few
month back from China and even though alot of UG Labs didn't want
to talk about it, alot of bro were getting sick with a fever, etc from
the stuff... I could tell from a batch I received just from the look, color
and feel of the powder, after years of this you can just tell by looking
and the feel sometimes... Well the latest batches of the Test Ent powder
have a totally different color and feel, and seem very pure... My point is
this... In China if a batch of powder gets containminated what do you
think happenes to it??? You really don't think it gets destroyed do you???
My personal belief is it's still sold off, maybe at a disocount to the sources
in China to move and as a end results we end up with bad quality powders,
yes it passed a lab test result for dosing, but it is not tested for any
other contaminates as part of this test... This is the only logical explanation IMO...


From rckpytn at bolex:
i cannot tolerate that stuff either, i made 100mls at 5% BA, i took a couple shots ans just felt horrible, it is way worse than test prop, i have no clue what i am going to do with it, i have soo much.


From Iron Warrior at bolex:
Formula for painless test/eq prop: 3% BA, 8-10% BB. 100mg/ml

Cook it just before shooting if it any pain.


UPDATE: about 4 hours after shooting 0.5ml 100mg/ml eq prop and i can feel a knot coming on. 2morro will be sore. But it is the first shot ive had in ages so i think anything i did would hurt. WIll update tomorro.

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Ok 4 days on from shooting and there's still a fukn knot in my ass which still hurts just as much as it ever did.

I posted earlier saying it didnt really hurt - which is didnt, compared to some other bad expereinces, and i thought it would go away. But it aint. Still alive and well and hurting.

I took a shot of test prop to see if it was just me getting used to shooting again. Anyway, ZERO pain from the test prop, so it looks like the eq prop is the culprit. No way in hell anyone could cycle on this stuff.
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Hey guys it's a week on from shooting the 0.5ml and the lump hasn't improved at all. It's still sore, and not getting any better.
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response from 956Vette:
the lumps lasted at least a week in the quad. probably 10days in the delt, never hit hte glute


From 1NonlyCB at bolex:
i shot mine in the glute and the lump and the pain were defenately there for over a week.. i think almost 10 days or so. But the pain had dropped off quite a bit after a week. I was able to sit down on my ass . The lump will slowly desipate SLOWLY.
Fast acting my ass....how could it be short acting when its sitting in a lump in ur ass for 10 days???


From Brown Bomber at bolex:
I had fever for 48 hrs. It's now been 3 days and the pain is almost gone from my lat thank god. I'm never touching this shit again though


From fastwitch at bolex:
Hi there, never posted here yet but I can share my experience with you. I am currently using bold prop and experienced the same pain, with some kind of fever (which appeared 8-10 hours after the shot) for the first two weeks. Then rotating the injection site (glutes, quads) made injections more comfortable, feeling some discomfort one or two days after but its no big deal. I mix it with test prop when injecting eod. I also inject during the afternoon so that the "fever" occurs during the nigth if any, and feel OK the next morning. I am pretty sure its the bolprop, first time used, first time having such problems.


From 4plates at bolex:
i just tossed out a big vial of boldprop.after the first shot i got fever/and laid in bed for 2/3 days. the knot in my ass lasted a wk. finally when i did feel better,i took another shot to see if it was infact the eqprop and bang,on my ass again!
ive used pretty much everything out there and i swear i will never use this stuff again!!!


From Ifrit at s'ology:
On a pain scale of 1-10 it was a ten. It fucked me up for over a week in every way you could imagine. I've made homemade propionate and it was no where near this painful, I couldn't sit on one side and my ass swelled up to my lower back and all the way to my outer hip. This shit should scare people and I don't care who has used it with success because at the low amount I used cc wise and MG wise it still fucked me up. Just imagine what would have happened if I wouldn't have used alot of BB which is more than most guys out there are using.


From Univex at AR:
Also, in most cases, it is painful as a mother****er. Much more than standard prop.

 

[rjl296]

and theres more,

moral- bold prop isnt that good

 

[Ulter]

Is there anyone naming names for what brand they are having problems with? I know a lot of people who used bold prop with no problem.

 

[AAP]

Let's get some names out for the rest of us here.

Funny, that is the exact same reaction I got with NPP. It was horrible. Best to just stop using it all together.

 

[Dial_tone]

I'm fortunate that I don't have problems with BA; I think I've made a few batches that were close to 10% BA and I never felt a thing. The only thing that's ever bothered me was IGF-1, which I didn't add enough BS water to.

 

[AAP]

I'm fortunate that I don't have problems with BA; I think I've made a few batches that were close to 10% BA and I never felt a thing. The only thing that's ever bothered me was IGF-1, which I didn't add enough BS water to.

when you gonna make me some stuff? Man, I am dying to get some shit. It will be called DT&AAP Booty Juice.

(I'm serious. Let me know what you are making.)

 

[meatneck]

But, will baking it have any effect on the contamination? I'll try baking it as you said, and I will only inject 1/4 of a cc and see if I get any bad results. I'm wondering after reading that long paragraph by rjl296 if the ug lab even knows about bad batches of powder, etc. ah hell, it only cost me 40$ so no big love loss to the bp

 

[DieselDan]

Damn- I was just going to buy some BD Prop. Makes me think twice. Two bad my only source only has BD stuff.

 

[rjl296]

as far as ive ever seen, its only bold prop.
now its been ALL bold prop ive heard of, but if some people are saying theres good stuff out there, im sure there are, and id like to know what labs are making it, cause theres proly more bad ones than good ones.


baking wont do shit if its contaminated, i baked mine (homebrew) and i shot it, for me it wasnt too bad. for 2 of my friends, they were incompacitated for 2-3 days, i mean totally fucked up

 

[meatneck]

yeah i've been pretty messed up all week. My leg and my delt have 2 huge lumps in it. Is that from contamination or is that from the ba?

 

[tiger88]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=350533

 

[Slyder190]

How 'bout this question, was it all from the same lab? This could be the real problem.

 

[rjl296]

a few months ago, all the same labs got the powder from the same place, which is probably the problem