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Bloodwork results after less than a month off...

boston789

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Bloodwork results after less than a month off & Derma thoughts

I stopped my last cycle on April 1st (about 3 weeks ago) after an 18 week run. I got my bloodwork back yesterday. Everything is normal. I had test levels, liver values, kidney, cholesterol, blood pressure and tyroid checked. All came back normal. The cycle I did is below:

1-4 - tbol 50mg ed
1-18 - test e 750mg ew
11-18 - var 75mg ed
9-18 - primo 900mg ew

What I took during and currently for vitamins/supplements were: Tylers, multi, bunch of vitamin C and for everything else such as cholesterol support, kidney support, fish oil, b-12, zinc, etc I purchased at swansonvitamins.com. Great place to go get vitamins and stuff.

For PCT I did HCG 500-750ius eod for the last week of my cycle and one week into PCT. After I stopped the HCG I started doing clomid at 50mg ed and derma at 4 pumps per day.

Next week or so I will stop using clomid and use the rest of the derma I have left. In regards to derma; I think it helped me recover well. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I felt like I was on again. Because it didnt feel like that at all. I never really crash after a cycle if I use the proper PCT, but I do have to say that derma made this transition alot easier and chances are I will use again (depending on how I feel after I stop using the derma).

All in all it was a great cycle...really long yeah. But considering I was on for 18 weeks my PCT isnt bad at all.
 
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Re: Bloodwork results after less than a month off & Derma thoughts

boston789 said:
I stopped my last cycle on April 1st (about 3 weeks ago) after an 18 week run. I got my bloodwork back yesterday. Everything is normal. I had test levels, liver values, kidney, cholesterol, blood pressure and tyroid checked. All came back normal. The cycle I did is below:

1-4 - tbol 50mg ed
1-18 - test e 750mg ew
11-18 - var 75mg ed
9-18 - primo 900mg ew

What I took during and currently for vitamins/supplements were: Tylers, multi, bunch of vitamin C and for everything else such as cholesterol support, kidney support, fish oil, b-12, zinc, etc I purchased at swansonvitamins.com. Great place to go get vitamins and stuff.

For PCT I did HCG 500-750ius eod for the last week of my cycle and one week into PCT. After I stopped the HCG I started doing clomid at 50mg ed and derma at 4 pumps per day.

Next week or so I will stop using clomid and use the rest of the derma I have left. In regards to derma; I think it helped me recover well. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I felt like I was on again. Because it didnt feel like that at all. I never really crash after a cycle if I use the proper PCT, but I do have to say that derma made this transition alot easier and chances are I will use again (depending on how I feel after I stop using the derma).

All in all it was a great cycle...really long yeah. But considering I was on for 18 weeks my PCT isnt bad at all.
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Right on bro....i remember looking at that cycle back a few months ago and thinking damn thats a long run and lots of orals but great for you man looks like everything turned out great.

you ran your pct exactly the same as me on my last 10 weeker and i recovered great.....the derma seemed to keep my mood and strength/pumps up a little better than without it.

btw....how did you like running var and primo at that dose? did you think those 2 compounds matched the hype that everyone talks about or what? i know one thing...i ran var, test, eq, and primo all together thinking that they were light compounds and had more sides than my current test/tren cycle....just wondering ur opinion since i'll be off this cycle in 4 weeks followed by 4 week pct then back on for the summer with test/var/t3 and maybe primo.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Right on bro....i remember looking at that cycle back a few months ago and thinking damn thats a long run and lots of orals but great for you man looks like everything turned out great.

you ran your pct exactly the same as me on my last 10 weeker and i recovered great.....the derma seemed to keep my mood and strength/pumps up a little better than without it.

btw....how did you like running var and primo at that dose? did you think those 2 compounds matched the hype that everyone talks about or what? i know one thing...i ran var, test, eq, and primo all together thinking that they were light compounds and had more sides than my current test/tren cycle....just wondering ur opinion since i'll be off this cycle in 4 weeks followed by 4 week pct then back on for the summer with test/var/t3 and maybe primo.
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I actually loved running primo/var. Its such a different cycle than test/tren/winny, or test/eq IMO. I looked the best I have yet on that cycle. I'm about 5'8 and I was at about 8-9% bf at 190-191lbs. The cuts I had in my shoulders, chest, arms, back and even quads were the best I've had as well. I've also held on to a good majority of it as well...more than I thought actually. I had no sides really while I was on; broke out a little on my shoulders, thats about it. I would definately run it again. Right now I'm 9-10%bf and about 186-188lbs. I have also completely revamped my traning as of last week.
 
boston789 said:
I actually loved running primo/var. Its such a different cycle than test/tren/winny, or test/eq IMO. I looked the best I have yet on that cycle. I'm about 5'8 and I was at about 8-9% bf at 190-191lbs. The cuts I had in my shoulders, chest, arms, back and even quads were the best I've had as well. I've also held on to a good majority of it as well...more than I thought actually. I had no sides really while I was on; broke out a little on my shoulders, thats about it. I would definately run it again. Right now I'm 9-10%bf and about 186-188lbs. I have also completely revamped my traning as of last week.
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not to sound like a perv bro but how was your sex drive with that amount of primo and var??? i will be running 500mg of test along with it so i assume i will be allset...actually i will be running this:

wk 1-8 prop 150mg eod
wk 1-8 primo 600mg ew
wk 1-8 var 75mg ed
wk 1-8 t3 50mcg
wk 1-8 proviron 50mg ed
wk 1-8 dostinex .5mg ew (for libido and nip issues while on)
 
Vascular Freak said:
not to sound like a perv bro but how was your sex drive with that amount of primo and var??? i will be running 500mg of test along with it so i assume i will be allset...actually i will be running this:

wk 1-8 prop 150mg eod
wk 1-8 primo 600mg ew
wk 1-8 var 75mg ed
wk 1-8 t3 50mcg
wk 1-8 proviron 50mg ed
wk 1-8 dostinex .5mg ew (for libido and nip issues while on)
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It was absolutely fine. I would try and get primo to go at least 10 weeks. At about week 5 or 6 I started to really see the primo working. The var at 75mg ed will do you in good. The pumps I was getting in the gym were so intense they hurt.
 
those levels of test e will take 4-6 weeks to clear out. anybody taking those dosages should be aware of that
 
6 weeks....never heard that. Fucking regardless, my test levels I dont worry about as much as liver, kidney, cholesterol, etc. My libido always comes back pretty quickly.
 
Sounds like you had good results, just a quick question.....many ppl see their lipid profile in the toilette with anavar, what were the numbers if you do not mind sharing
thanks
 
boston789 said:
Maybe if I talk shit about other members someone will contribute something...
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LOL. Well you didn't use anything of mine! Seriously, congrats. I'm always glad to hear of a safe landing and using nutritional support.

RU taking another test post clomid? I'll be curious to hear the difference.
 
Varga said:
Sounds like you had good results, just a quick question.....many ppl see their lipid profile in the toilette with anavar, what were the numbers if you do not mind sharing
thanks
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I forget what the number were...I can find out though.
 
Nelson Montana said:
LOL. Well you didn't use anything of mine! Seriously, congrats. I'm always glad to hear of a safe landing and using nutritional support.

RU taking another test post clomid? I'll be curious to hear the difference.
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Thanks man. Appreciate it. I will take another test before I get back on which will be around the July timeframe. If all is good, I'll be back on right after that.
 
boston789 said:
6 weeks....never heard that. Fucking regardless, my test levels I dont worry about as much as liver, kidney, cholesterol, etc. My libido always comes back pretty quickly.
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well ok then that is different ... glad to hear your values look good

just keep in mind as far as hpta is concerned you are just getting ready for PCT as far as letting the long esters clear.
 
Triple J said:
well ok then that is different ... glad to hear your values look good

just keep in mind as far as hpta is concerned you are just getting ready for PCT as far as letting the long esters clear.
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Good call...thanks man.
 
Nelson, I'd like to get your thoughts on this:

What I started to do after my cycle was complete was take almost a week off. Then start up with a completely different training style. What I did for training while I was on one bodypart per day and I lifted heavy. I did this technique for about 4 months. Now that I'm off I decided that I need as much natural test in my system as possible so I decided to do my training like this:

Monday and Thursday -

weeks 1-2 - 10 sets of squats, 10 sets of bench, 10 sets of deadlifts all at 10 reps a piece.

weeks 3-4 - 8 sets of squats, 8 sets of bench, 8 sets of deadlifts all at 8 reps a piece.

weeks 5-6 - repeat weeks 1 and 2.

weeks 7-8 - 6 sets of squats, 6 sets of bench, 6 sets of deadlifts all at 6 reps a piece.

I'm into week 3 at this point. So far so good. Such intense workouts.
 
boston789 said:
What'd you do for PCT?
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Hey bro, I am ending a 20 weeker and I am scared as hell! I hate pct, I am glad everything went so smooth for you!

I am using derma, unleashed, and post cycle for pct. I just started pct on friday.

I have nolva, clomid, hcg etc if necessary.
 
Stryker1992 said:
Hey bro, I am ending a 20 weeker and I am scared as hell! I hate pct, I am glad everything went so smooth for you!

I am using derma, unleashed, and post cycle for pct. I just started pct on friday.

I have nolva, clomid, hcg etc if necessary.
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This bears repeating -- use the HCG a week after your last shot to get things going. Use a-dex along with it because your e is going to be way high. If clomid worked for you in the past, include it but no more than 50 mgs a day along with the supps. After a couple of weeks continue with the supps for 2 months.

The supps will definetley help, but considering you've been on for so long I wouldn't count on them alone. They'll "supplement" the PCT and will help with the transition to being off. Do it this way and you should be fine.
 
boston789 said:
Nelson, I'd like to get your thoughts on this:

What I started to do after my cycle was complete was take almost a week off. Then start up with a completely different training style. What I did for training while I was on one bodypart per day and I lifted heavy. I did this technique for about 4 months. Now that I'm off I decided that I need as much natural test in my system as possible so I decided to do my training like this:

Monday and Thursday -

weeks 1-2 - 10 sets of squats, 10 sets of bench, 10 sets of deadlifts all at 10 reps a piece.

weeks 3-4 - 8 sets of squats, 8 sets of bench, 8 sets of deadlifts all at 8 reps a piece.

weeks 5-6 - repeat weeks 1 and 2.

weeks 7-8 - 6 sets of squats, 6 sets of bench, 6 sets of deadlifts all at 6 reps a piece.

I'm into week 3 at this point. So far so good. Such intense workouts.
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That works. Just get plenty of sleep and no cardio in the early weeks. Looks good.
 
Stryker1992 said:
Hey bro, I am ending a 20 weeker and I am scared as hell! I hate pct, I am glad everything went so smooth for you!

I am using derma, unleashed, and post cycle for pct. I just started pct on friday.

I have nolva, clomid, hcg etc if necessary.
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I would def use the HCG and clomid. Nolva isnt THAT important...at least not for me.
 
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