BLOODS* what should I do

[Mike4705]

So to start I ran a 10 week tren ace, test prop cycle that ended in late September 2012 (6 months ago) PCT of post cycle unleashed, forma, DAA and hcgenerate (no HCG or clomid)
Everything seemed fine until around 3 months off I started noticing signs of low test, I figured it was a cause of my stressful life so I proceeded with an 8 week s4 cycle which I ran a mini pct of hcgenerate. This cycle ended late February 2013. After about 2 weeks off PCT I noticed low test sides except this time that's what I actually believed it was. Started up some D Spark and double bridge. In this time I lost significant amount of gains from prior gear cycle. From the d spark I immediately felt better incline me to get blood done.

Testosterone 394. NML 348-1197
Free Testosterone 7.9 (marked low)
DHEA 289
Estrogen 22.4 NML 7.6-42.6

At this point I was two weeks into my NTBM muscle products. I had some concern so 2 weeks ago I began clomid at 25 mg a day. After 2 weeks of therapy these were my results

Testosterone 592
Lh 3.2 NML 1.7 to 8.6
FSH 3.4 NML 1.4-12.4
Estrogens 24.7

My question is, should I continue clomid for another week or two, and then check again? Or should I stop the clomid now and test again in two week. I want to start a triple stack soon. My only concern is my LH AND FSH
Thanks guys

 

[Jbranken]

I wouldn't start anything until your bloods are good. Your test went up but you should keep running the clomid for the full 4 weeks then get bloods a few weeks after. If levels still haven't recovered, try another pct protocol.

 

[Mike4705]

I wouldn't start anything until your bloods are good. Your test went up but you should keep running the clomid for the full 4 weeks then get bloods a few weeks after. If levels still haven't recovered, try another pct protocol.

Okay, thanks for the help, will do. Do these levels look promising? What should I look for to determine my bloods are in check? Higher LH? Or just feeling optimal in general.

 

[stevesmi]

come off all drugs and then wait a solid 2 weeks, then re-check.. the clomid is giving you a temporary boost to your numbers but will that hold when you come off? nope it will not.. question is how much do things tank

you ran a tough cycle.. then jumped on S4 which is suppressive. so really your numbers aren't bad at all. the longer you stay off the more you will slowly recover.

I tell guys to run bloods because I feel like people ignore it too much and think they are recovered fine when they are not. i think if everyone ran bloods we would have far more threads like this.. there is a cliche that ignorance is bliss. its like buying a house without having it inspected. i guess you will find out the hard way if the roof is no good or the pipes need to be replaced

 

[ALIN]

I wouldn't start anything until your bloods are good. Your test went up but you should keep running the clomid for the full 4 weeks then get bloods a few weeks after. If levels still haven't recovered, try another pct protocol.

I agree. Wait until your blood work is back to normal and you fully recover. Give it some time,,it will return if you do it right.

 

[Jbranken]

Okay, thanks for the help, will do. Do these levels look promising? What should I look for to determine my bloods are in check? Higher LH? Or just feeling optimal in general.

Your test is already starting to recover, though you'll probably see a drop after you discontinue clomid. Keep running support supps and test boosters and things should level out over time. Your levels are salvageable so that's good news. LH is on the lower end of the norm but not horrible. Unleashed, hcgenerate, methyl EAA, test infusion are all great natural supps that would help here. The most important thing is not to run anything suppressive until you're recovered

Did you get prolactin tested? Would be interesting to see where it's at of you didn't run any caber with your tren

 

[Mike4705]

come off all drugs and then wait a solid 2 weeks, then re-check.. the clomid is giving you a temporary boost to your numbers but will that hold when you come off? nope it will not.. question is how much do things tank

you ran a tough cycle.. then jumped on S4 which is suppressive. so really your numbers aren't bad at all. the longer you stay off the more you will slowly recover.

I tell guys to run bloods because I feel like people ignore it too much and think they are recovered fine when they are not. i think if everyone ran bloods we would have far more threads like this.. there is a cliche that ignorance is bliss. its like buying a house without having it inspected. i guess you will find out the hard way if the roof is no good or the pipes need to be replaced

Thanks Steve always great info. Seeing how things will tank I will run the clomid for the full month re-test, come off for 2 weeks then retest. I want to know exactly how much it will drop. Unfortunately when it comes to AAS I've always learned the hard way, but bloods is definAtely something I'll always check. I feel great so I'm hoping it will hold.

 

[Mike4705]

Your test is already starting to recover, though you'll probably see a drop after you discontinue clomid. Keep running support supps and test boosters and things should level out over time. Your levels are salvageable so that's good news. LH is on the lower end of the norm but not horrible. Unleashed, hcgenerate, methyl EAA, test infusion are all great natural supps that would help here. The most important thing is not to run anything suppressive until you're recovered

Did you get prolactin tested? Would be interesting to see where it's at of you didn't run any caber with your tren

I definAtely plan to continue running the support supps until everything is kicking again. I got my prolactin tested. It was 4.2 on the very low end so it's not an issue. I ran prolactrone on cycle to keep it in check. I hope you understand my eagerness to jump back in the game. Summer is here and I'm anxious. So I always use the good ol EF advice to keep me thinking straight and not making poor decisions

 

[dvoted]

i aggreee with the others. time off. rinse and repeat

 

[Mike4705]

i aggreee with the others. time off. rinse and repeat

Yeah, thanks. Sometimes the good advice is needed. The excitement of going back on cycle clouds your judgement sometimes. I am stoked for my next cycle but TRT like some other guys on here is not the route I'm looking for.