blood work results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[realdeal99]

just got results back

ast 41
alt 53

diagnosis doc sending me to have ultra sound done on liver and bladder just to be safe...

total cholest 186
hdl 41
vldl 19
ldl 125 0-99 is the range told me i need better diet
having hapatitis panel checked also due to ldl being high

testosterone ggt 16 0-65 normal
total test 161 241-827 normal

diagnosis is im being sent to uro for further evaluation, hopefully i can get a script for some test


everything else checked out fine any input here , came off cycle two months ago from a yr long cycle that consisted of test,eg,winny,dbol all aty diff times been doing cycle for ten yrs now, i mentioned growth hormone and he told me i would die at the age of 50.....

 

[realdeal99]

whats the best way to lower LDL ANY SUGGESTIONS

 

[drveejay11]

W/O knowing you or anyting about you, your health conditions, your familial history, or what cycle(s) you've run (or are running) it's going to be difficult to give you a concrete answer bro.

53 ALT (5-40 normal) is a little more indicative of liver necrosis than AST. If you JUST finished up a cycle or are currenty on one, it may take a little longer for this particular value to return to normal.

41 AST (5-40 normal) is a little more of a general indicator that "something" could be problematic (heart/liver.....possibly brain/skeletal muscles).

These values are NOT alarming but DO merit follow up. Sounds like your doc is taking god care of you.

 

[Snarf]

First, we need to know the reference ranges used for your ALT and AST values. I would not consider these alarming at all. In fact, high protein diets combined with intense weight training will often result in mild liver enzyme elevations. I just got my values back at 49 for both ALT and AST while on a Fina test cycle and I was happy as shit.

You lipid profile is not great but not that bad either. Your cholesterol ratio is 4.5 and while it would be nice if your LDD was lower, your overall profile is not bad and you could work on your LDL through diet.

If your doc is trying to scare you into not taking GH by saying you will die at 50, then I would find a new doc.

A lot of times, as soon as the doc knows you are on gear, they start looking at every lab value as ammunition to be able to tell yhou to stop taking it.

The test is low obviously. Do you have a baseline value so you know what you are trying to recover to? If you have been cycling for 10 years, depending on your age, you may be low no matter what recovery cycle you do and then you need to think about HRT.

Good luck.

 

[realdeal99]

AS FAR AS THE LIVER VALUES IVE BEEN AS HIGH AS 120 DURING PREVIOUS CYCLES WITHOUT TAKING ANY LIVER PROTECTANTS IVE BEEN TAKING THEM RECENTLY AND I THINK THATS WHY I CAM IN PRETTY LOW THIS TIME, MY LOVER VALUES WERE SUPPOSE TO BE BETWEEN 1-40 IVE ONLY BEEN OFF FOR TWO MONTHS FROM GEAR I FEEL IVE DONE PRETTY WELL THIS CYCLE,, I DONT HAVE A BASELINE FOR TEST, BUT ITS FUNNY I DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM IN BED OR GETTING IT UP WITH THE LOW TEST LEVEL, I WILL SAY MY NUTS DID COME BACK TO FULL SIZE LIKE AFTER BEING OFF 6 WEEKS BUT RECENTLY THEY WENT DOWN A LITTLE I FOUND THAT KINDA OF FUNNY. AFTER LAST CYLE I DID SOME HCG BUT I DID NOT USE CLOMID FOR POST CYCLE , I BELIEVE THATS WHERE MY PROBLEM COULD LIE, WHEN I GO SEE DOC WHAT ARE MY CHANCES OF GETTING SCRIPT FOR TEST, I DONT WANT A PATCH FOR MY ARM THERE NOTHING BUT SHIT...VEEJAY WHATS WITH THE heart/liver.....possibly brain/skeletal muscles). EVERY GUY IN HERE WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM THEN

 

[realdeal99]

anybody see any reasons not to start back up with another cycle here, will there be any problem if i get ultra sound done while being on a cycle, how do i talk my uro out of using a patch and giving me the cyp injections...

 

[DrJMW]

just got results back

ast 41
alt 53

diagnosis doc sending me to have ultra sound done on liver and bladder just to be safe...

total cholest 186
hdl 41
vldl 19
ldl 125 0-99 is the range told me i need better diet
having hapatitis panel checked also due to ldl being high

testosterone ggt 16 0-65 normal
total test 161 241-827 normal

diagnosis is im being sent to uro for further evaluation, hopefully i can get a script for some test


everything else checked out fine any input here , came off cycle two months ago from a yr long cycle that consisted of test,eg,winny,dbol all aty diff times been doing cycle for ten yrs now, i mentioned growth hormone and he told me i would die at the age of 50.....

YOU NEED TO DO ONE OR TWO, PROPER RECOVERY CYCLES.
WEEKS ONE THRU THREE: 2,000U OF HCG, IM, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRI; 20MG NOLVADEX DAILY; 50MG CLOMID DAILY;
WEEKS FOUR THRU SIX: 20MG NOLVADEX DAILY, 50MG CLOMID DAILY. THEN RETEST TESTOS LEVELS; IF NOT RECOVERED, THEN REPEAT. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DO NOT HAVE BASELINE TESTOS READINGS. THE ANSWER IS NOT STARTING ANOTHER AAS CYCLE. YOU NEED TO NORMALIZE YOUR READINGS. YOUR LIVER VALUES WILL PROBABLY NORMALIZE IN TIME, BUT THE FOLLOW-THROUGH RECOMMENDED IS JUST BEING THOROUGH. TO NORMALIZE YOUR LIPID PROFILE, GO ON A HIGH PROTEIN, LOW CARB (LESS THAN 60G DAILY), AND MODERATE CLEAN FAT DIET. DO IT DURING YOUR RECOVERY. BY THE END OF RECOVERY, YOUR CHOLESTEROL LEVELS SHOULD BE NORMAL.

 

[JBRIII]

WelChol

I've been on Welchol for awhile and it has worked miracles on my HDL/LDL/VLDL ratios. Ask your Dr. about it. It works through the intestinal track and doesn't have any effect on your liver values.

He switched me from Lipitor because it was elevating some enzymes. Haven't had any problems since.

J.

 

[realdeal99]

dr j

would it be all that bad just to jump on another 12 week cycle and when coming off to due a better post cycle therapy and then deal with the testos readings then, ive been off for 8 weeks now i dont want to stay off to much longer or ill lose to much size....i had low test levels my whole life as it is...was going to set up a cycle like this

600 mgs enthanate 1-12
400mgs eq 1-12
dbol 40mgs 1-4
tren 75mgs 8-12 eod
clomid 50 ed 1-18
hcg 12-15 m w f 2000ius
nolv 20mgs 12-18
tyler detox ed 1-18

these are the cycles ive been running on and off for years

 

[DrJMW]

If your natural testos elvels are that low to begin with, then why bother with a recovery cycle? Just stay on with lower dosing.