Blood Test Results after 21 weeks of Fina.......

[Fonz]

Well, finally got here.

I had also been using T3 for 16 weeks in low
doses. 12.5-25mcg/day

AST(SGOT) 72 Normal Range: 2-50

ALT(SGPT) 78 Normal Range: 2-60

ALK(Phos) 59 Normal Range: 20-125

Albumin: 5.2 Normal Range: 3.7 - 5.1

T4, Total: 5.0 Range: 4.5-12.5

T3, up-take: 47% Normal: 27.8-40.7

T4, Free(Calculated): 2.4 Normal: 1.6-3.7

T4, Free(Non-dyalisis): 2.1 Normal: 0.8-1.5

TSH: 1.8 Normal 0.4-5.5


Well......my liver enzymes are slighlty elevated,
and my TSH is a tad low(I was on T3 so that was expected), but all in all Ok.

Fonz

 

[gwl9dta4]

good info.

 

[Zyglamail]

What dose tren fonz?

 

[Fonz]

What dose tren fonz?

Averaged out to roughly 100-110mg/day.

Fonz

 

[me2dammit]

yeah

Fonz if I may ask, from what I can tell you did 5 months on than 6 weeks off than 5 months on and now 21 weeks.

Is that how it went? Your strength must be insane by now.

And you have had no problems with recovery?

 

[Fonz]

Re: yeah

Fonz if I may ask, from what I can tell you did 5 months on than 6 weeks off than 5 months on and now 21 weeks.

Is that how it went? Your strength must be insane by now.

And you have had no problems with recovery?

It was actually 26 weeks then bridge then 21 weeks and now
4 weeks later.......and going.

Recovery? Nope. I'm coming off in Feb/March probably for good.

Its then Anavar only from then on.

Strength? Yes, I'd have to say I'm pretty strong.

Legs are lagging because I just had minor surgery on my ankle because of a soccer injury. But thats about it really.

IMO, using only 1 AAS at most 2, is very safe for extended
periods of time.

Also IMO, Test/Fina can be run for long, long periods of time
with minimal side effects.

Fonz

 

[The Terminator]

Damn Fonz, you're quite the trailblazer...your reads are always thought provoking.

 

[drveejay11]

Maybe your shit was fake?

Bawahhaaawahhaa.........J/K!

Congrats Bro

One question though. Did you feel that you were progressively gaining throughout this long cycle? Or did most of the gains come early on and only small gains came there after?

thanx

 

[Fonz]

Maybe your shit was fake?

Bawahhaaawahhaa.........J/K!

Congrats Bro

One question though. Did you feel that you were progressively gaining throughout this long cycle? Or did most of the gains come early on and only small gains came there after?

thanx

It comes in spurts.

4-6 weeks

then

every 10-12 weeks

You just get to a point where you can't get any stronger unless you increase bodyweight.(Which I couldn't do. People would
get suspicious of AAS use)

Fonz

 

[me2dammit]

hey

fonz another question about your long fina cycles.

Do you think that you end up keeping more of the "fina strength" from longer cycles due to your body getting used to the stimulation, I know the LBM is fairly easy to maintain. Just wondering what your opinion is.

Do you think there are any permanet neural adaptions?

 

[Fonz]

Re: hey

fonz another question about your long fina cycles.

Do you think that you end up keeping more of the "fina strength" from longer cycles due to your body getting used to the stimulation, I know the LBM is fairly easy to maintain. Just wondering what your opinion is.

Do you think there are any permanet neural adaptions?

Yes.

Androgens increase neuromuscular control.

Prolonged use(within reason) makes you stronger. The nerves
"adapt" and become more efficient at delivering the electro-chemical signals to the muscles.

Thats all theory though.

Fonz

 

[Realgains]

Fonz did you get kidney fuction tests done? BUN and creatinine?...
For the sceptics......not me as mine was normal after 8 weeks of tren at 75 per day.


Oh Fonz......the TSH is perfect. Most peole walk around with that level and even lower in some. I try to keep mine between 1 and 2. (Been hypothyroid since 12)

RG

 

[Fonz]

Fonz did you get kidney fuction tests done? BUN and creatinine?...
For the sceptics......not me as mine was normal after 8 weeks of tren at 75 per day.


Oh Fonz......the TSH is perfect. Most peole walk around with that level and even lower in some. I try to keep mine between 1 and 2. (Been hypothyroid since 12)

RG

Yes.

BUN: 19 Normal: 7-25

Creatinine: 1.3 Normal: 0.5-1.4

BUN/Cr Ratio: 14.6 Normal: 6-25



Kidney function was well within specs.

Fonz

 

[Realgains]

Yes.

BUN: 19 Normal: 7-25

Creatinine: 1.3 Normal: 0.5-1.4

BUN/Cr Ratio: 14.6 Normal: 6-25



Kidney function was well within specs.

Fonz

SEE.. ! SEE... !all your sceptics!..........if tren was going to hurt the kidneys then it sure the H would have hurt them with this FONZ' cycle!
THE TREN/KIDNEY THING IS A MYTH STARTED BY DAN DUCHAINE YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!

RG

 

[Stan Ozolol]

I thought running Fina for long periods of time is horrible on your hpta levels?? Isn't Fina one THE hardest AS on your hpta levels? Running fina for 22 weeks could cause permanent damage-??

 

[Fonz]

I thought running Fina for long periods of time is horrible on your hpta levels?? Isn't Fina one THE hardest AS on your hpta levels? Running fina for 22 weeks could cause permanent damage-??

Depends.

Some people it shuts them down BAD.

In others(like me), it doesn't.

Trial and error really.

Fonz

 

[Moe]

Fonz--

I need convincing...not that Fina is les dangerous than previously believed, but rather that I should use it again. I ran Fina for the first and only time along with 750mg/wk of sust and had amazing gains...the problem is (or may have been) that I was hitting the Fina at 133mg/day, which eventually led to a BIG libido problem.

I am still trying to figure out if this was due to the dosage or weather I am one of those people who are adversely affected in this way regardless of dosage.

Of course, to see, I would have to run it again. There is the problem. While I love upside of tren, the downside is a bit taxing on my marriage.

What's up?

 

[Fonz]

Fonz--

I need convincing...not that Fina is les dangerous than previously believed, but rather that I should use it again. I ran Fina for the first and only time along with 750mg/wk of sust and had amazing gains...the problem is (or may have been) that I was hitting the Fina at 133mg/day, which eventually led to a BIG libido problem.

I am still trying to figure out if this was due to the dosage or weather I am one of those people who are adversely affected in this way regardless of dosage.

Of course, to see, I would have to run it again. There is the problem. While I love upside of tren, the downside is a bit taxing on my marriage.

What's up?

133mg/day is too much.

Fina is best taken in the 75-100mg/day range for best results.

If Tren+Sust(The amount you mentioned) shut you down then you're probably sensitive to Tren's HPTA's suppresing effects.

I'd start at 50mg/day and go from there.

There's bound to be a dosage that gives you no libido problems.
(Probably around 75mg/day IMO)

Fonz

 

[da big thinker]

fonz,

out of curiosity,how were your CK (creatine kinase) levels bro...?btw,impressive blood tests for a guy who stayed ON that long...

 

[wizardnor]

Fonz--

I need convincing...not that Fina is les dangerous than previously believed, but rather that I should use it again. I ran Fina for the first and only time along with 750mg/wk of sust and had amazing gains...the problem is (or may have been) that I was hitting the Fina at 133mg/day, which eventually led to a BIG libido problem.

I am still trying to figure out if this was due to the dosage or weather I am one of those people who are adversely affected in this way regardless of dosage.

Of course, to see, I would have to run it again. There is the problem. While I love upside of tren, the downside is a bit taxing on my marriage.

What's up?

my wife think i am f@@king beast 100mg ed

 

[ryker77]

what about HDL, LDL and cholestrol lipids???

 

[Fonz]

what about HDL, LDL and cholestrol lipids???

They weren't done.

Apparently Chem 7+Chem 13 test don't include it.

Its my first blood test here in the US and my doc is old(64),
so I think he misunderstood me.

The guy is so conservative its scary. If I told him I took AAS
he'd probably have a heatt attack on the spot.

I'll get them done soon. They're bound to be bad I'm sure.

Fonz

 

[cbeaks]

thanks for letting us know about your blood test results fonz. I have wondered how going on a long fina cylce might effect me. - cbeaks