blood results

[sparkant]

hey guys , so i got blood results back and prolactin levels in normal range -lh/fsh in normal range /test in normal range / and all other stuff (liver enzymes /kidney function etc) were as normal - bad cholestrol was up very slightly but my diet wasnt the best on my cycle which was 8 weeks of 300mg deca 500 mg sustanon my big mistake was relying on my source to provide my pct - which he didnt - so i basically went 4 weeks with no hcg or anything and i crashed quite hard - depression anxiety massive loss in mass and strength , i know i will get some well deserved negative comments on my foolish pct mistake but i am basically asking for help with the only negative blood result - High estrogen - which prob explains the anxiety / sadness etc - i didnt get a print out of results so i dont know how high it is but the drugs i have on hand are arimidex proviron and clomid (which i started but had to stop as made me even more down i also have hcg - i am using tribulis / rhodiola/ avena sativa and l tyrosine to help me feel better but its a struggle so just want to lower estrogen levels as soon as possible so i can shift the depression and low feeling the doc gave me an ssri and some sleeping pills which i am using ( when i first crashed i didnt sleep for 3 nights on the trot ) any help would be great - on a side note it was the second time i have used deca and the first time i also crashed but not as bad as i did pct - been fine with test and dbol etc - never ever will i touch a nandralone again !

 

[Zyglamail]

my big mistake was relying on my source to provide my pct - which he didnt - so i basically went 4 weeks with no hcg or anything and i crashed quite hard

Your big mistake was starting cycle without having everything in hand.

i am basically asking for help with the only negative blood result - High estrogen - which prob explains the anxiety / sadness etc

Clomid often makes things worse, I would just run ana for a few weeks and possibly taper it off.

 

[stevesmi]

what exactly did you expect your results to be after a deca cycle? you are screwing yourself up even more going on all those drugs. stop them all immediately and run a PCT.

run hcg 1000iu's 2-3X per week for 3 weeks.. then 2 HMG dosages.. followed by low dose SERM for 4-6 weeks.

as long as your estrogen stays high its gonna take even longer to recover. the PCT i outlined will solve that but it WILL TAKE TIME and patience. don't expect overnight results.

deca takes a long time to recover from because the esthers take a LONG TIME to leave the body, not because its any more harsh on your HPTA necessarily. believe it or not testosterone is more severe at shutting you down but the difference is 3 weeks and its OUT. deca lingers.

 

[Zyglamail]

If his fsh and LH numbers are fine and test is normal and he starts taking HCG/hmg he is just going to inhibit natural lh output and increase test output which is just going to cause E to go higher.

 

[_Nomad]

Arimidex alone will cut into his estrogen levels fast, why aren't you guys recommending that as well?

 

[sparkant]

sorry i may have missed out that i am now 8 weeks since last shot - after 4-5 weeks i did hcg 500 iu every day for a week then 1 gram of tribulis and all other herbs - like i said i did try clomid but i think it was too little to late - any ideas wot i can use now wit what i have on hand to zyglamail - you say run ana ? i do have more hcg clomid arimidex and proviron here now - any ideas

 

[sparkant]

Arimidex alone will cut into his estrogen levels fast, why aren't you guys recommending that as well?

exactly wot i was thinking but need advice on dosage etc

 

[Zyglamail]

Arimidex alone will cut into his estrogen levels fast, why aren't you guys recommending that as well?

I did ana = anastrozole = arimidex

 

[sparkant]

I did ana = anastrozole = arimidex

sorry fella didnt understand - how much how often ? i have 1mg tabs -

 

[Zyglamail]

sorry fella didnt understand - how much how often ? i have 1mg tabs -

Really depends on where you E levels are now, you dont want to totally supress estrogen. It also wont get rid of estrogen thats already in your system, just slow down or greatly reduce additional aromatization. Without knowing where your E is, I would probably start at just .5mg 3x a week.