"Excellent advice... I used 125mg Test stacked with 200mg EQ and 15IU's of HGH every week and finished an Ironman. This worked amazing for me. The EQ will boost your RBC without the dangers associated with EPO."-Shivers
Wow that's great congrats! Ironman that's for real, Full Iron right?
Shivers this is a question: Is there a reason why you came up with 125mg test and 200mg EQ, 15IU's HGH-trial and error?
Tried other dosage and didn't work? Did other doses hinder your training and if so in what way? If so this seems like a 'low' dose of Test EQ. I checked out your other posts and I read you've done a a couple cycles too long. Were these too much also and thus the lower dose?
I know there are other posts/threads addressing AAS and endurance on Elite but none lately- Are there any compounds you tried that didn't work? Adversely effected training goals?
So much of the stuff on here is "get bigger", "get ripped", "what are your stats" Well I'm 5' 9" and weigh 240LBS and I'm 9%-What a crock of s##%! Dude there's no way you can be 5' 9" with 9%-but I get the feeling that for a lot of bro's looking the part is key. Like I was at the gym the other day and this dude was just staring in the mirror at himself, hypotized like WTF dude-first time you encountered a mirror? Narcissus stared at the water, in love with his own reflection. Now I know body mechanics and proper form and mirrors help-but to be totally focused on how you appear to others is a pretty small attitude to me. With an Ironman-it's getting the job done, looking the part doesn't have any effect on getting to the finish. None.
I can say from experience that cardio to a body builder which for now I'll call a 'poser' is so different for an endurance athlete/pro or amateur that you can't even use the same term. Fifteen minutes on a treadmill, or 15 minutes on one of those worthless Johnny G pieces of trash- is like maybe a warm up or something. And so likewise AAS, what the look good dude is using may be totally worthless for an athlete who actually does his thing outside the gym, and I don't mean a beauty pagaent self-indulgent stage. And since so few enduance people are on here or are willing to admit they use AAS, it's hard to even make a generalization about what may work and in what amounts for an endurance athlete.
But for you Test 125 and EQ200 are working? right? Any sides? What are the improvements.
Garbage #1: I can tell without a doubt what doesn't work for me. Ephedrine, ECA stack, whatever-absolute garbage, I'd be better off smoking crack does not work for me. It raises my heart rate without an improvement in output. It causes profuse sweating ie =dehydration. Raise in body temp which leads to overheating. Later on muscle cramps, nausea shaky jittery speedy BS which have no place in endurance. Now for the 20 minute treadmill boy/girl, fine-Go head do a 15 minute pose on the treadmill, and stare in the mirror while your at it-hey man knock yourself out but again that's really not cardio.
Garbage #2: Clenbuterol, Clen, total crap. Now again for a treadmill poser, maybe great stuff, strutting their stuff in front of the mirror. But on the roads on me pure useless garbage. My resting heart rate went from upper 40's low 50's to like 115-in the course of four weeks. Cardio sucked. Absolutely sucked on Clen and how anyone in their right mind would reccomend this crap to anyone but their ex-wife or their worst enemy is beyond me. Profuse sweating, felt like running uphill all the time.
Within five days of dropping this crap my HR was back in the low 50's and I could run again. So for me at least these products are cardio killers.
Oh yeah, EPO did work wonders. Although my HCT was so high I looked like I had a perpetual tan, absolutely red. So I'd have to give a thumbs up to EPO.
Anyone out there found anything that works?
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). I plan on doing another Ironman in 2010 and will most definatly stick to the same plan. By the way I'm 38, 6' and weigh 165. I'm not sure what my BF% is. That kind of stuff doesn't really matter to me.
