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Been off cycle since December and the boys aren't getting any bigger. They;re the size of grapes. I need them bigger. How?
Bigger Balls
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njmuscleguy
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What was your cycle? And what was your PCT? You should probably have only recently finished with PCT. HCG is probably part of the solution, but need more info first.
chilisauce1
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PCT:
Novladex-40 mg ED
Proviron-25 mg ED 6 weeks after cycle
Novladex-40 mg ED
Proviron-25 mg ED 6 weeks after cycle
Dude, your PCT is the reason your marbles are so small.
Proviron is an AAS, why the hell would you take that for Post cycle therapy. You basically never did a PCT.
Get some HCG 1500iu 3x week for 3 weeks (mon, wed, fri) and take clomid for a month. That should get your boys back in line.
And next time you even think about using AAS do some research.
Proviron is an AAS, why the hell would you take that for Post cycle therapy. You basically never did a PCT.
Get some HCG 1500iu 3x week for 3 weeks (mon, wed, fri) and take clomid for a month. That should get your boys back in line.
And next time you even think about using AAS do some research.
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chilisauce1
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Thanks!
macrophage69alpha
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there is no need to take more than 50mg/day (higher dose may have a very slight differential in effect but dramatically increase incidence of sides)
if you use HCG, also use low dose AI (aromasin or AIFM preferably)
Nolva has not been established as PCT, there is little evidence that its even as effective as clomid. this is not to say that nolva may not have some value as a priming agent
if you use HCG, also use low dose AI (aromasin or AIFM preferably)
Nolva has not been established as PCT, there is little evidence that its even as effective as clomid. this is not to say that nolva may not have some value as a priming agent
macrophage69alpha said:
My testicles shrunk more than I expected and the HCG so far has done a great job of dropping them and helping them grow back to their size.
On another note macro, I don't want to stir up shit between anyone, but why does the pct threads say: hcg, nolva, aromisan or aifm, but for a more agressive pct add the clomid? I think it's fucking confusing personally. Why does Anthony Roberts swear by his proposed pct saying clomid isn't needed?
This shit is confusing especially when you say there is no evidence that nolva is a pct medication. I just want to know because I want to do the right thing for pct for my recovery(by the way I am using the suggested pct you gave me).
macrophage69alpha
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nolva is good as a priming agent with/prior(since half life) HCG. Other than that nolva has no real established effectiveness in PCT.
Mrpumped said:
MP, I am not Macro but I can tell you what I use and why:
During PCT I use the Nolva as an anti-e with HCG & proviron as anti-aromatase to reduce the amount of test to estrogen conversion
HCG at start of the PCT to "jump start" and Clomid to stabilize the HPTA & LH & FSH hormones, which are responsible for HPTA recovery..
The HCG only mimics HPTA, i.e. it sends a message to the HPTA to spike test production BUT does not stimulate the 2 hormones (LH & FSH)..Clomid does that well.
This is not to say that with several doses of HCG the HPTA will start working on it's own and eventually get to normal. The Clomid does that in a steady & controlled fashion where HCG just causes spikes which drop but always a little higher than at the start of the shot. So eventually it reaches a certain level where the HPTA kicks in...
Hey man I hope I clarified a little. If you want you can PM me for more questions
Peace
if you don't want to do HCG..
try using MyogenX
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pfac/myo.html
if you want to increase size with a natural supplement.. takes about 3 days and you will start seeing results..
try using MyogenX
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pfac/myo.html
if you want to increase size with a natural supplement.. takes about 3 days and you will start seeing results..
Hey Bro take a look at this link all the info you need is here, happy hunting 
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