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JKurz1

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Ok, here's what I'm looking at.......I'm about 6'2, 190 and 6-7%......body is aching cause I'm forcing myself to keep pounding the heavy weights while staying so damn lean.....my split is 3 on 1 off with cardio every am.....now, I need to put on about 20lbs over the next 12 months or so....I'm going to tone down the cardio to a mild walk daily, just to keep myself in check.....weights will remain heavy. I haven't hit a good cycle for over a year, but this is my plan.......

wk 1-5 30mg of dbol ed
wk 1-10 500mg of test (1st 5 test00, 2nd 5 sust 250)
week 1-10 250mg deca
week 6-12 100mg of winny eod

rest for 10 with my pct and follow with
300mg of eq for 10 weeks and 200mg of tren enthanate for 10 weeks......

does this look ok?

ONE big problem is all I can right now is clomid PCT.......will this suffice? Thanks for the help fellas!
 
wk1-10 test-500mg
wk-1-10 deca-400mg
wk1-5 d-bol 30mg daily
wk-6-12-winny 50mg daily

i would not start that cycle untill i got nolva-hcg-clomid-a-dex peroid.


as far as the eq you should hit that at at least 400mg i would go with 600mg.
 
BIGJAKE said:
wk1-10 test-500mg
wk-1-10 deca-400mg
wk1-5 d-bol 30mg daily
wk-6-12-winny 50mg daily

i would not start that cycle untill i got nolva-hcg-clomid-a-dex peroid.


as far as the eq you should hit that at at least 400mg i would go with 600mg.
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really bro.....clomid solo won't cut it, huh?
 
I like what BigJake said. 50mgs of Winny ED as opposed to 100 EOD. Deca should be brought up from 250 to say 300-400mgs. The test...heh....test is test. No need to switch. I would just stick to test E. The Dbol is very nice. And yes, I too would not start without having some Nolva on hand ( just in case ), You need the HCG somewhere in the middle of the cycle or better yet all throughout cycle at 500ius twice per week. Adex...heh....if you want mass...avoid it. If want to stay as lean as possible...then I would say 1mg per day. The EQ should be between 400-600 always!
 
Carth said:
I like what BigJake said. 50mgs of Winny ED as opposed to 100 EOD. Deca should be brought up from 250 to say 300-400mgs. The test...heh....test is test. No need to switch. I would just stick to test E. The Dbol is very nice. And yes, I too would not start without having some Nolva on hand ( just in case ), You need the HCG somewhere in the middle of the cycle or better yet all throughout cycle at 500ius twice per week. Adex...heh....if you want mass...avoid it. If want to stay as lean as possible...then I would say 1mg per day. The EQ should be between 400-600 always!
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i agree with carth on this just as he stated for dosages.as far clomid alone no i do not think that is gonna cut it.i would go 500iu 2 times a week entire cycle hcg.
 
Thanks fellas, I'm going to look into in hard and see if I can find some. ONLY to play devil's advocate, what is the repercussion for not taking it and hitting clomid,nov. only? Any OTC supplement that can compare to HCG?
 
HCG seems to be very effective. It keeps the testes full so pct is more effective. Howeve HCG is not to be abused because your lh can become used to it and it not work nor you natty production..
 
i wouldnt say hcg is a necessity but it definately can help you recover

nolva you should definately have on hand incase teh dbol + test is too much
 
Everything Im reading says clmod and nolva and MANDATORY! But, hcg is a loophole. Can I get away with 6-oxo or is it junk? With those two alone keep me "functioning"....don't want to be shut down, AGAIN!
 
JKurz1 said:
Everything Im reading says clmod and nolva and MANDATORY! But, hcg is a loophole. Can I get away with 6-oxo or is it junk? With those two alone keep me "functioning"....don't want to be shut down, AGAIN!
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get the hcg, its worth it. Check your pm's.
 
JKurz1 said:
Everything Im reading says clmod and nolva and MANDATORY! But, hcg is a loophole. Can I get away with 6-oxo or is it junk? With those two alone keep me "functioning"....don't want to be shut down, AGAIN!
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Bro I have NEVER used HCG and have not been burned yet...a lot depends on you and how you react and how well you recover. Definitely get Nova though because the clomid won't help with the estro. I'm planning on a heavy cycle upcoming so i am thinking of using the HCG for th first time.
 
Listen to Carth and Bigjake. I would never do a cycle without HCG and clomid... never! You have to have it on hand before you start or else problems can occur. I always use it with incredible results! Last time gained 24lbs and kept 20. Only lost water! Didn't lose any strength either. If you include HCG and Clomid in every cycle you will never be let down!!
Best of Luck
 
500iu 2 times a week for the entire cycle-nolva i run it at 10mg daily entire cycle.clomid 3 weeks after last sus shot 300mg day1 100mg for 10 days after that 50mg for 10 days should do the trick.
 
JKurz1 said:
Ok, here's what I'm looking at.......I'm about 6'2, 190 and 6-7%......body is aching cause I'm forcing myself to keep pounding the heavy weights while staying so damn lean.....my split is 3 on 1 off with cardio every am.....now, I need to put on about 20lbs over the next 12 months or so....I'm going to tone down the cardio to a mild walk daily, just to keep myself in check.....weights will remain heavy. I haven't hit a good cycle for over a year, but this is my plan.......

wk 1-5 30mg of dbol ed
wk 1-10 500mg of test (1st 5 test00, 2nd 5 sust 250)
week 1-10 250mg deca
week 6-12 100mg of winny eod

rest for 10 with my pct and follow with
300mg of eq for 10 weeks and 200mg of tren enthanate for 10 weeks......

does this look ok?

ONE big problem is all I can right now is clomid PCT.......will this suffice? Thanks for the help fellas!
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Okay, pick one test (not a SUS fan myself) and run it at500mg/week, till week 11.
Bump the Deca to 400mg/week till week 10.
Use Winny at 50mg/day from weeks 8-13.

Deca will take 3 weeks to clear, as will Sus if you go with Sus. so set it up like that.
Run the
 
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