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Big Jay about 1 week out from the O
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welloiledmachine
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Big jay is closing the gap on old ronnie boy. His striations in his lats, and rhomboids are top notch. His hams look bigger and calfs thicker. Ronnies crown is not sitting so tight now...It might be big jays year?? Ronnie is still the man though...
It's hard to judge unless you have equal pics side-by-side, and seeing in person really makes a difference too.
Too hard to judge by these pics, especially since there is nothing to compare to.
He looks tight though. Has a good shot, and he definately looks better than last year.
Hopefully he will not have any last weeks "mess-ups" that can throw off what he has built.
BMJ
Too hard to judge by these pics, especially since there is nothing to compare to.
He looks tight though. Has a good shot, and he definately looks better than last year.
Hopefully he will not have any last weeks "mess-ups" that can throw off what he has built.
BMJ
anabolic12
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That is just way to big... I respect him for what he does, but damn, that is just to big..
caravan
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He looks like he could be a very close contender with Ronnie. Coleman's midsection is blown out and bloated due to oversized intestines from insulin and copious ammounts of gear. Not just our muscles grow on the stuff.
Aesthetics..........Zane........Arnold.......I digress.
oh and Jay isnt gay
Aesthetics..........Zane........Arnold.......I digress.
oh and Jay isnt gay
caravan
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He does look truly massive, but I try and think of how zane or arnold looked in their heydays, and they were so freakin tight. I mean artistically so. They werent as massive as coleman or cutler but just genetically superior! It's seems like who wins has to be the biggest, but if I were judging I'd have a pic of old school Arnold or Frank Zane in mind, and compare them with today's trends and O competetors and then make my decision. Ronnie is huge, but he looks like the michelin man. Or that monster dude from resident evil. Jay is the best out right now, genetically and aesthetically, so even if he isnt as masive as coleman he gets my vote. His physique is much more pleasing to the eye {in a non gay way} and Ronnie looks....well......gross. Although I still give Ronnie his dues as his liver could lift more than I could squat.
oh and Jay Cutler isnt gay.
oh and Jay Cutler isnt gay.
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ALIN
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KD1 said:
Indeed,,,Jay will be 2nd,,Gunter 3rd.
supertech69
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I say Ronnie 1st, Gunter 2nd, Jay 3rd. I have a feeling (& a hope) that Ronnie is going to get it to set the record then they are going to finally start looking at something more asthetically pleasing as opposed to just being a freak. Gunter is my fav bber ever. He is very cool in person & I'm 6'5" so, to me, he is impressive as hell at 6'1". That dude has veins in his biceps the size of my freakin finger! I'd love to see him win it all!
chazk
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jay just does not have the look . i mean look at the double front bicep shot look at jays right bicep then his left bicep then look at his abs he has a 5 pack 2 abs on one side 3 on the other side.
even though ronnie colman is a freak ,ronnie has better biceps and his abs are symetric even if bloated they look better .
you would ahve to be a nut to think jay can take ronnies crown thats just insane ronnies arm is a big as jays upper leg. coleman is a monster. only way jay will take ronnie is if ronnie shows up just stands on stange then jumps onto the judges tables drops his trunks and shits in each ones face and smears it in joe weiders mouth
1 ronnie even though i think he is ugly now compared to 2000
2 dexture the blade jackson (although i feel he deserves first place)
3 jay just becuase of his status with joe and the judges
4 gunther becuase joe weider just loves hugging him and touching him
even though ronnie colman is a freak ,ronnie has better biceps and his abs are symetric even if bloated they look better .
you would ahve to be a nut to think jay can take ronnies crown thats just insane ronnies arm is a big as jays upper leg. coleman is a monster. only way jay will take ronnie is if ronnie shows up just stands on stange then jumps onto the judges tables drops his trunks and shits in each ones face and smears it in joe weiders mouth
1 ronnie even though i think he is ugly now compared to 2000
2 dexture the blade jackson (although i feel he deserves first place)
3 jay just becuase of his status with joe and the judges
4 gunther becuase joe weider just loves hugging him and touching him
caravan
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cranny said:One more
http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/mrolympia/imgs/coleman/colem7.html
http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/mrolympia/imgs/zane/zane5.html
http://bodybuilding.acntco.net/pics.html
Check out Ronnie's pic, campare him to Jay, and then ask yourself do they represent what is pleasing about the enhanced natuaral male body, and male bodybuilding and the legacy that that Frank and Arnold left behind. Or is it just like watching a competition between two cartoon characters.
I dont mean to offend, just to bring about brainstorming and ideas of what is our collective idea of what the perfect male or female body looks like. That is after all what we are all striving for perfection? Is it not?
chazk
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caravan said:
i was watching puming iron a few days ago with my fiance we noticed when arnold was clothed in tshirts and not work out clothes and not in the gym and pumped he didnt look like a giant but just a big dude with a great body. same with franco when they showed him in italy lifting the car in the street he did not look like a freak he looked like one stocky mofo but not nasty and gross.ken whaller looked great at the 75 universe and off stage when he was throwing around the football he looked thick and built but not nasty and freaky.my finace thought they all had great bodies and when arnold is running down the beach into the water in a speedo her jaw dropped and she told me man he is beautiful and he had a awsome body
but at the local gym she sees the gymrats guys with fat faces nasty guts and a few bloated roid monsters coverd in acne and she thinks they all look nasty except a few.i think this is what bodybuilding has turned into and its slowly killing off the sport. when people see guys like pual dillet and ronnie walking around in public they think its nasty and gross looking,but when they see some ones with arnolds build 6'2 at 235lbs with actually only about 30lbs ofrock hard muscle then what the average guy at 6'2 and 205bs has they think ts just the perfect amount of muscle for abodybuilder to have plus the tiny waiste.
but now adays the sport has turned into larger then life for the top elite they are pushed to get bigger and massive in order to win the contest and work they way up the ladder.i think small local shows have better judgeing then the big shows as far as symetry and over all juding of quality.
btw if anyone has not seen the 25th anv of pumping iron on dvd it has some extra features muscle as art event in new york with ed corney , frank zane and arnold all on rotatinmg platforms posing and they looked like greek gods its what the sport was all about and i hope it goes back to that building a quality body that is attractive as well and just nice to look at as it were eteched out of stone .
i dont like seeing veins rip out of ronnie colmans ass and guys with arms bigger then their heads with a waiste of a mother in the 4th term ready to drop a baby. plus alot of guys on stage are covered in cystic acne and scars all over them where they have had to have abcesses cut out of their ass and delts. most of its airbrushed out in the pics but when i meet nassar el sombaty in orlando he was in a tank top it apeared that his back had giant volcanoes of puss that looked like they would erupt at any seconds and spray us all down.franco arnold had hair and no acne all over them they just looked healthy
dexture jackson is the last of a dying breed and well over looked every year
ThepoolGuy
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cranny said:How about this comparison? Todays BB'ers are truely impessive but I would have to say I would much rather see it go back to the way it was when Arnold was competing. It's such a better look IMO. Just look at the waist comparison in these 2.
Arnold looks so much better dude.
bbkingpin
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Not a good analogy. Sprinters do not have weight classes. Or if they do, sprinting is all about speed, weightlifting was never about size only, but rather muscularity, definition, proportion, symmetry. Bodybuilding has to do with aesthetics, perfection, not sheer mass. Unless you want to create your own sport, like going from boxing to ultimate fighting. Going from bodybuilding to massbuilding.bw1 said:
BiggT
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I saw the pics....it is hard to say with no comparison, plus Jay will be crisper and dialed in on-stage.....honestly, during Ronnie's reign, I think he "should" have lost 3-4 times, but not to Cutler....both bring a similar huge, thinck, 'too big for their frame' package....and if freakiness is the standard, they are the two best 'built' freaks, but comparing them, at least in years past, imo (and I am not a BB and have no experience judging physiques) it always seemed like Jay's entire backside looked like mush NEXT TO Coleman and if you compare the two, I can see giving Ronnie the nod.....when you get into what is too freaky and unpleasing to look at, you throw a bunch of guys in the mix.....but with the current standards/criteria, Ronnie and Jay bring the best freak show package.....and from the back, Jay just never looked as crisp and granite-like as Ronnie
caravan
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ok then let's do this, have a symmetrical competetition and a freak show. Then push both styles of bodybuilding into all the muscle mags. Why cant the O have two distinct competitions, freak show contest and perfect enhanced body. I would never want to look like coleman or cutler. Arnold or zane in their prime your damn right.
bbkingpin
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All the guys are massive, but the mass monsters win over the more proportioned guys, I think that's the point ppl are making about Ronnie. He looked better when he first appeared on the scene. Arnold kept refining whereas guys today keep pushing the envelope in terms of sheer mass. I think a lot of it has to do with new drugs, supplements, etc. But if you get excited by sheer mass, then I see why Ronnie or Jay Cutler is your guy.bw1 said:
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